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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 5952002" data-attributes="member: 42582">There is no general ratio. It's free narration within the parameters established by the mechanics (in 4e those parameters can include things like being bloodied, swooning/being knocked down, suffering a poisoning, running in fear, etc).For this, I would run 3E with hit points as meat. Because a high level 3E fighter will have no trouble taking multiple shotgun blasts to the face and keep going.To flip it around: the main incentive on my part for rejecting hit points as meat is that it mandates that my game include stupid things like high level fighters taking multiple shotgun blasts to the face.Whereas hit points as morale and heroism (including morale and heroism in the face of moderate but not debilitating physical injury) makes the mechanics and the narration work together, rather than push against one another.Exactly. I can understand how those who are wedded to Rolemaster or Runequest-type simulation might bridle at hit points (in either the AD&amp;D, 3E or 4e version).But I don't understand what AD&amp;D and 3E players think is going on in the sort of scenario that you describe that is so radically different from 4e.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 5952002, member: 42582"] There [I]is[/I] no general ratio. It's free narration within the parameters established by the mechanics (in 4e those parameters can include things like being bloodied, swooning/being knocked down, suffering a poisoning, running in fear, etc). For this, I would run 3E with hit points as meat. Because a high level 3E fighter will have no trouble taking multiple shotgun blasts to the face and keep going. To flip it around: the main incentive on my part for rejecting hit points as meat is that it mandates that my game include stupid things like high level fighters taking multiple shotgun blasts to the face. Whereas hit points as morale and heroism (including morale and heroism in the face of moderate but not debilitating physical injury) makes the mechanics and the narration work together, rather than push against one another. Exactly. I can understand how those who are wedded to Rolemaster or Runequest-type simulation might bridle at hit points (in either the AD&D, 3E or 4e version). But I don't understand what AD&D and 3E players think is going on in the sort of scenario that you describe that is so radically different from 4e. [/QUOTE]

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