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<blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 5742257" data-attributes="member: 463">[MENTION=6680772]Iosue[/MENTION] - thanks; yes with 4e it rather feels like the lethality-reducing house rules have already been baked into the system, so finally no need to develop your own.&nbsp; I actually started a 4e campaign saying there'd be Fate Points, then quickly realised there was no need for them.Good point re Classic D&amp;D - with Mentzer Basic especially I think there's a disconnect between the romantic/heroic fantasy implied by the art &amp; text, re the extreme lethality of OD&amp;D &quot;You have 1d8 hp &amp; die at 0&quot;.&nbsp; This is a bit like the 3e disconnect &quot;You are a Wuxia superhero, but will probably die if an Orc crits you&quot;.&nbsp; With Classic D&amp;D (&amp; retro-clones) again my solution has been house rules - max hp at 1st level &amp; death at -10 works best I think (C&amp;C's approach of stable at 0 to -5 and dying at -6 to -9 is very good); alternatives include adding CON to hp, a 10 hp kicker, and a Death Save at 0 hp.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="S'mon, post: 5742257, member: 463"] [MENTION=6680772]Iosue[/MENTION] - thanks; yes with 4e it rather feels like the lethality-reducing house rules have already been baked into the system, so finally no need to develop your own. I actually started a 4e campaign saying there'd be Fate Points, then quickly realised there was no need for them. Good point re Classic D&D - with Mentzer Basic especially I think there's a disconnect between the romantic/heroic fantasy implied by the art & text, re the extreme lethality of OD&D "You have 1d8 hp & die at 0". This is a bit like the 3e disconnect "You are a Wuxia superhero, but will probably die if an Orc crits you". With Classic D&D (& retro-clones) again my solution has been house rules - max hp at 1st level & death at -10 works best I think (C&C's approach of stable at 0 to -5 and dying at -6 to -9 is very good); alternatives include adding CON to hp, a 10 hp kicker, and a Death Save at 0 hp. [/QUOTE]

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