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In what ways can a 3.5 or Pathfinder PC get the swallow whole ability?
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<blockquote data-quote="Roadie" data-source="post: 5943376" data-attributes="member: 6670219"><p>This is an odd question, but I'm sure it must be doable in at least a few ways. I'm intentionally avoiding the "10th level rogue with Gape of the Serpent" trick, as well as just assigning LA to a creature that already has swallow whole but no listed level adjustment (that's just too easy). The main ways I've found so far are: </p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">using <em>polymorph</em>, <em>shapechange</em>, etc to directly turn into something that has the swallow whole ability. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">having the anthropomorphic animal template from <em>Savage Species</em>. This only has level adjustment given for a preset list of animal types, but this seems to be only a space-requirements limit (e.g. an appropriate LA could be eyeballed for others). The (non-dire) animals that have the swallow whole ability that I can find are: <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">3.0: giant toad (<em>Oriental Adventures</em>), poisonous toad (<em>Oriental Adventures</em>) </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">3.5: allosaurus (<em>Monster Manual II</em>), battletitan (<em>Monster Manual III</em>), cave tyrannosaurus (<em>Miniatures Handbook</em>), cryptoclidus (<em>Monster Manual II</em>), forest sloth (<em>Monster Manual II</em>), legendary shark (<em>Monster Manual II</em>), megalodon (<em>Monster Manual II</em>), mosasaur (<em>Stormwrack</em>), spinosaurus (<em>Monster Manual II</em>), <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/dinosaur.htm#tyrannosaurus" target="_blank">tyrannosaurus</a>, quetzalcoatlus (<em>Monster Manual II</em>) </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Pathfinder: <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/animals/frog/frog-giant" target="_blank">giant frog</a>, <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/animals/turtle/turtle-giant-snapping" target="_blank">giant snapping turtle</a>, <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/animals/toad/toad-giant" target="_blank">giant toad</a>, <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/animals/megalania" target="_blank">megalania</a>, <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/animals/dinosaur/tyrannosaurus" target="_blank">tyrannosaurus</a> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Pathfinder, third party: <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/animals/lizard/lizard-chameleon-giant-tohc" target="_blank">giant chameleon</a>, <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/animals/frog/frog-giant-tohc" target="_blank">giant frog</a>, <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/animals/fish/pike-giant-tohc" target="_blank">giant pike</a>, <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/animals/turtle/snapping-turtle-giant-tohc" target="_blank">giant snapping turtle</a>, <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/animals/frog/frog-giant-tohc" target="_blank">giant toad</a>, <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/animals/eel/eel-gulper-tohc" target="_blank">gulper eel</a> </li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">being a dragon of Huge size with the Snatch and Swallow feat. You might qualify for this by: <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">being a kobold with the Dragonwrought feat, and somehow permanently becoming Huge size. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">repeatedly changing into a Huge dragon (via <em>polymorph</em> effects, Draconic Wild Shape feat, or the Master of Many Forms class), allowing you to gain the feat but it only working while you're a Huge dragon (depending on the DM). </li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">being a 9th-level <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/summoner/archetypes/paizo---summoner-archetypes/synthesist" target="_blank">synthesist</a> <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/summoner" target="_blank">summoner</a> with the <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/summoner/eidolons#TOC-Swallow-Whole-Ex-" target="_blank">swallow whole</a>, <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/summoner/eidolons#TOC-Grab-Ex-" target="_blank">grab</a>, and <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/summoner/eidolons#TOC-Bite-Ex-" target="_blank">bite</a> evolutions. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">playing an amphi dragon, wyrmling (Tiny, 1 HD, LA +2), very young (Tiny, 4 HD, LA +3), young (Small, 7 HD, LA +4) or juvenile (Medium, 10 HD, LA +5), from <em>Dragonlance: Bestiary of Krynn Revised</em>. This is less of an option if you don't want to be covered in warts, constantly produce a repulsive smell, and naturally generate enough acid to put holes in even stone floors. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">using the 8th-level spell <em>bite of the king</em> (<em>Spell Compendium</em>) for a single pseudo-swallow whole attack. This is only available with the Gluttony and Hunger domains. </li> </ol></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Roadie, post: 5943376, member: 6670219"] This is an odd question, but I'm sure it must be doable in at least a few ways. I'm intentionally avoiding the "10th level rogue with Gape of the Serpent" trick, as well as just assigning LA to a creature that already has swallow whole but no listed level adjustment (that's just too easy). The main ways I've found so far are: [LIST=1] [*]using [i]polymorph[/i], [i]shapechange[/i], etc to directly turn into something that has the swallow whole ability. [*]having the anthropomorphic animal template from [i]Savage Species[/i]. This only has level adjustment given for a preset list of animal types, but this seems to be only a space-requirements limit (e.g. an appropriate LA could be eyeballed for others). The (non-dire) animals that have the swallow whole ability that I can find are: [LIST] [*]3.0: giant toad ([i]Oriental Adventures[/i]), poisonous toad ([i]Oriental Adventures[/i]) [*]3.5: allosaurus ([i]Monster Manual II[/i]), battletitan ([i]Monster Manual III[/i]), cave tyrannosaurus ([i]Miniatures Handbook[/i]), cryptoclidus ([i]Monster Manual II[/i]), forest sloth ([i]Monster Manual II[/i]), legendary shark ([i]Monster Manual II[/i]), megalodon ([i]Monster Manual II[/i]), mosasaur ([i]Stormwrack[/i]), spinosaurus ([i]Monster Manual II[/i]), [url=http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/dinosaur.htm#tyrannosaurus]tyrannosaurus[/url], quetzalcoatlus ([i]Monster Manual II[/i]) [*]Pathfinder: [url=http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/animals/frog/frog-giant]giant frog[/url], [url=http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/animals/turtle/turtle-giant-snapping]giant snapping turtle[/url], [url=http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/animals/toad/toad-giant]giant toad[/url], [url=http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/animals/megalania]megalania[/url], [url=http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/animals/dinosaur/tyrannosaurus]tyrannosaurus[/url] [*]Pathfinder, third party: [url=http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/animals/lizard/lizard-chameleon-giant-tohc]giant chameleon[/url], [url=http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/animals/frog/frog-giant-tohc]giant frog[/url], [url=http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/animals/fish/pike-giant-tohc]giant pike[/url], [url=http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/animals/turtle/snapping-turtle-giant-tohc]giant snapping turtle[/url], [url=http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/animals/frog/frog-giant-tohc]giant toad[/url], [url=http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/animals/eel/eel-gulper-tohc]gulper eel[/url] [/list] [*]being a dragon of Huge size with the Snatch and Swallow feat. You might qualify for this by: [list] [*]being a kobold with the Dragonwrought feat, and somehow permanently becoming Huge size. [*]repeatedly changing into a Huge dragon (via [i]polymorph[/i] effects, Draconic Wild Shape feat, or the Master of Many Forms class), allowing you to gain the feat but it only working while you're a Huge dragon (depending on the DM). [/list] [*]being a 9th-level [url=http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/summoner/archetypes/paizo---summoner-archetypes/synthesist]synthesist[/url] [url=http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/summoner]summoner[/url] with the [url=http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/summoner/eidolons#TOC-Swallow-Whole-Ex-]swallow whole[/url], [url=http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/summoner/eidolons#TOC-Grab-Ex-]grab[/url], and [url=http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/summoner/eidolons#TOC-Bite-Ex-]bite[/url] evolutions. [*]playing an amphi dragon, wyrmling (Tiny, 1 HD, LA +2), very young (Tiny, 4 HD, LA +3), young (Small, 7 HD, LA +4) or juvenile (Medium, 10 HD, LA +5), from [i]Dragonlance: Bestiary of Krynn Revised[/i]. This is less of an option if you don't want to be covered in warts, constantly produce a repulsive smell, and naturally generate enough acid to put holes in even stone floors. [*]using the 8th-level spell [i]bite of the king[/i] ([i]Spell Compendium[/i]) for a single pseudo-swallow whole attack. This is only available with the Gluttony and Hunger domains. [/LIST] [/QUOTE]
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