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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 5312723" data-attributes="member: 29398">We were all bad once, even the best of us.I've played with some grand DMs, and those tend to be the ones whose campaigns last beyond the first adventure (ignoring, for this purpose, intentional one-offs and convention games).&nbsp; I've also hit some rather grim ones, but they didn't last long anyway. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />As a DM, I was awful when I started.&nbsp; Fortunately, my players put up with it and gave me time to learn the ropes; after which things improved a little and - I hope - are even now still improving.Some years later, however, in the same campaign but by now with mostly-different players I was overthrown by a player revolt.&nbsp; They put in a new DM, and I became a player...which at the time was fine with me...A few years later, one of the ringleaders of the revolt told me that had they known what was in store in the new game they never would have done any such thing. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />= = = = = =Separate but related issue: unfortunately, Hussar, defining &quot;bad&quot; does have relevance here.&nbsp; There's people on this board, for example, that by their own stated attitudes and preferences would define themselves in my eyes as bad DMs, and in whose games I would not play. (the reverse is also true; I'm sure there's some of you who think I'm a bad DM - fair enough, I won't hold it against you <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ) But somebody must think these bad-to-me DMs are good at what they do, as their games seem to keep on rolling along...In other words, you could get several different opinions about the same DM, which would make this poll a bit counter-productive.Lan-&quot;not perfect, but better than I was&quot;-efan</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 5312723, member: 29398"] We were all bad once, even the best of us. I've played with some grand DMs, and those tend to be the ones whose campaigns last beyond the first adventure (ignoring, for this purpose, intentional one-offs and convention games). I've also hit some rather grim ones, but they didn't last long anyway. :) As a DM, I was awful when I started. Fortunately, my players put up with it and gave me time to learn the ropes; after which things improved a little and - I hope - are even now still improving. Some years later, however, in the same campaign but by now with mostly-different players I was overthrown by a player revolt. They put in a new DM, and I became a player...which at the time was fine with me... A few years later, one of the ringleaders of the revolt told me that had they known what was in store in the new game they never would have done any such thing. :) = = = = = = Separate but related issue: unfortunately, Hussar, defining "bad" does have relevance here. There's people on this board, for example, that by their own stated attitudes and preferences would define themselves in my eyes as bad DMs, and in whose games I would not play. (the reverse is also true; I'm sure there's some of you who think I'm a bad DM - fair enough, I won't hold it against you :) ) But somebody must think these bad-to-me DMs are good at what they do, as their games seem to keep on rolling along... In other words, you could get several different opinions about the same DM, which would make this poll a bit counter-productive. Lan-"not perfect, but better than I was"-efan [/QUOTE]

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