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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5322472" data-attributes="member: 22779">BryonD - my only issue with what you said, and I agree with you mostly, is that "common sense" is far from common, IME.  Take a recent example:I was playing a 4e game and my rogue had an at will power (I forget the name) that allows him to jump as if he had a running start, even from standing still.  In other words, he calculates a jump check as d20+skill in feet.  The character had a +11 skill check.We come across a 10 foot pit.  I declare that I sail over the pit with ease, demonstrating my grace (the character is short, fat and a total slob - I liked the image this presented <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ).  The DM tells me that I have to roll.  "Oh, is there something in my way or something?" I ask."No," is the reply. "But a skill check of 1 always fails.""Umm, no it isn't actually.  That's never actually been true in any edition of D&D.""Well, there has to be a chance of failure, so, you have to roll."I jump over the pit, then because of events in the game, I wind up having to jump back and forth a few times.  And, of course, I roll a 1 and fall into the pit.This is the kind of thing I'm talking about when I say that DM's often arbitrarily jack up difficulty.  This ruling doesn't even make common sense.  If someone can jump X feet, he can, barring some extraneous circumstances, always jump X feet.  Heck, there isn't even a DC in this case.  The only thing the roll tells you is how many feet you jump.  It's not a check in the sense of pass fail at all.But, nope, thud, down I go.I have to admit, based on my experience, I'd much, much rather DM's let rules trump common sense than the other way around.</blockquote>

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