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<blockquote data-quote="fba827" data-source="post: 826589" data-attributes="member: 807">umm.. during a fight, they get an artifact/something used against them that is basically a super-curse spell.&nbsp; It doesn't just go away with a remove curse but requires something specific (it's own quest for some components) in order to get it removed...&nbsp; or the person that used the artifact says he/she will use the artifact to remove the curse if they help him/her in some otherwise unscrupulous way.&nbsp; (I would recommend that after all the hard work that the curse can eventualy be removed - maybe not by the person who put it on them (he/she is only lying) but some superhigh cleric can do a mircle with certain components that requires the other quest)...buut given this, anything to do implement can easily be undone by anyone else....i'd really say that your option here may just be different characters for different dms.&nbsp; You can even desguise it with &quot;new characters thaht are students of the first &quot;&nbsp; but you're net effect will be new untarnished characters (no doubt, however, the other DMs may do whatever so you'll want to be careful....)... you could also help &quot;sell&quot; this idea by saying you have a really cool game idea but it is for lower level characters so make some students of the older characters to try this out ...(i'm on pain medicine so&nbsp; I am rambling, sorry. don't mean to.. hope this makes some sense. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> )</blockquote>

[QUOTE="fba827, post: 826589, member: 807"] umm.. during a fight, they get an artifact/something used against them that is basically a super-curse spell. It doesn't just go away with a remove curse but requires something specific (it's own quest for some components) in order to get it removed... or the person that used the artifact says he/she will use the artifact to remove the curse if they help him/her in some otherwise unscrupulous way. (I would recommend that after all the hard work that the curse can eventualy be removed - maybe not by the person who put it on them (he/she is only lying) but some superhigh cleric can do a mircle with certain components that requires the other quest)... buut given this, anything to do implement can easily be undone by anyone else.... i'd really say that your option here may just be different characters for different dms. You can even desguise it with "new characters thaht are students of the first " but you're net effect will be new untarnished characters (no doubt, however, the other DMs may do whatever so you'll want to be careful....)... you could also help "sell" this idea by saying you have a really cool game idea but it is for lower level characters so make some students of the older characters to try this out ... (i'm on pain medicine so I am rambling, sorry. don't mean to.. hope this makes some sense. :D ) [/QUOTE]

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