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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 7994951" data-attributes="member: 23751">I don't think you're seeing the big picture here.&nbsp; Yes, if that poll had been opened up like the &quot;What products have you bought?&quot; poll, you'd see much higher numbers across the board, just like the &quot;What products have you bought?&quot; poll is seeing.&nbsp; That doesn't mean that there wouldn't be stand-outs.&nbsp; It just means that everything on that poll would see a significant bump.&nbsp; The ones that are currently the most popular, though, would remain in the lead.&nbsp; The bump would likely be pretty even across the board.So it wouldn't be fair to paint you as a bad guy for being a pessimist.&nbsp; However, that's not what we are doing.&nbsp; Heck, we aren't even painting you as a bad guy at all. We're disagreeing with you and telling you that you are reading the poll numbers incorrectly, and that if it had been a fair poll that allowed everyone to vote for all the things that they want to see come to the game, the numbers would be very much higher across the board.So first, we aren't making that argument.&nbsp; This isn't about personal preference.&nbsp; It's about what things hit high numbers with what people want WotC to make and release.&nbsp; Dark Sun and Psionics made the top 4.&nbsp; That's&nbsp; very significant when you read the polls numbers properly. Second, Dark Sun had broad appeal years ago and new players are very likely to also like it as a setting.&nbsp; People haven't changed all that much since it was released the first time.&nbsp; Third, a lot of old time gamers had biases against psionics that newer players won't have.&nbsp; D&amp;D has gone main stream and many, if not most new players aren't the hardcore geeks that don't want to mix their D&amp;D and their Sci-Fi, because geeky reasons.&nbsp; I'm sure a lot of them will be like, &quot;Cool!! Mind powers!&quot;I also walked through 1e uphill in the snow.&nbsp; When THACO arrived, I was there! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />The Dark Sun modules had psionics in them.&nbsp; As for psionics not being that popular, as you point out, this is EN World where many of us have played for decades and have those biases I mentioned above.&nbsp; Even then, most of us saw psionics used at some point, and some saw them fairly often.It absolutely was a central theme.&nbsp; Every being in the game was at least a wild talent.&nbsp; Creatures were intensely psionic, with the majority of the creatures in the Dark Sun Monstrous Compendiums having psionics and special abilities related to psionics.&nbsp; Of the 11 creatures in the boxed set, 9 had psionics.&nbsp; The Dragon Kings as oppressors, which were probably the second most important theme in game were 20th level Wizards and 20th level Psions to even become a dragon.&nbsp; We wouldn't have that theme without psionics being present.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 7994951, member: 23751"] I don't think you're seeing the big picture here. Yes, if that poll had been opened up like the "What products have you bought?" poll, you'd see much higher numbers across the board, just like the "What products have you bought?" poll is seeing. That doesn't mean that there wouldn't be stand-outs. It just means that everything on that poll would see a significant bump. The ones that are currently the most popular, though, would remain in the lead. The bump would likely be pretty even across the board. So it wouldn't be fair to paint you as a bad guy for being a pessimist. However, that's not what we are doing. Heck, we aren't even painting you as a bad guy at all. We're disagreeing with you and telling you that you are reading the poll numbers incorrectly, and that if it had been a fair poll that allowed everyone to vote for all the things that they want to see come to the game, the numbers would be very much higher across the board. So first, we aren't making that argument. This isn't about personal preference. It's about what things hit high numbers with what people want WotC to make and release. Dark Sun and Psionics made the top 4. That's very significant when you read the polls numbers properly. Second, Dark Sun had broad appeal years ago and new players are very likely to also like it as a setting. People haven't changed all that much since it was released the first time. Third, a lot of old time gamers had biases against psionics that newer players won't have. D&D has gone main stream and many, if not most new players aren't the hardcore geeks that don't want to mix their D&D and their Sci-Fi, because geeky reasons. I'm sure a lot of them will be like, "Cool!! Mind powers!" I also walked through 1e uphill in the snow. When THACO arrived, I was there! ;) The Dark Sun modules had psionics in them. As for psionics not being that popular, as you point out, this is EN World where many of us have played for decades and have those biases I mentioned above. Even then, most of us saw psionics used at some point, and some saw them fairly often. It absolutely was a central theme. Every being in the game was at least a wild talent. Creatures were intensely psionic, with the majority of the creatures in the Dark Sun Monstrous Compendiums having psionics and special abilities related to psionics. Of the 11 creatures in the boxed set, 9 had psionics. The Dragon Kings as oppressors, which were probably the second most important theme in game were 20th level Wizards and 20th level Psions to even become a dragon. We wouldn't have that theme without psionics being present. [/QUOTE]

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