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<blockquote data-quote="Veril" data-source="post: 2384695" data-attributes="member: 33452">You are not lighting a candle and breathing, you are using a magic item.&nbsp; &nbsp;Is using a magic item restful?&nbsp; In the general case I think that it is not - while not specifically excluded under the section on rest it's implied (fairly demanding..mental).&nbsp; &nbsp;Is Incense of Meditation a magic item?&nbsp; &nbsp; It's listed under Wonderous items in the DMG, that makes it a magic item.&nbsp;Go back to the Use Items section of the DMG to see how magic items are used (Page 213).&nbsp; &quot;To use a magic item, it must be activated, although sometimes activation simply means putting a ring on your finger&quot; SNIP&quot;Activating a magic item is a standard action unless the item description indicates otherwise.&quot; 4 methods of item activation are listed.&nbsp; Spell Completion, Spell Trigger, Command Word, Use Activated.&nbsp; Magic items are activated by one of those 4 methods.&nbsp; It's clear by inspection that Incense of Meditation is a &quot;Use Activated&quot; item.&nbsp; &nbsp;from the section on use activated items&quot;Unless stated otherwise, activating a use-activated magic item is either a standard action or not an action at all &quot;&nbsp;From the description of Incense of Meditation&quot;When a divine spellcaster lights a block of incense of meditation and then spends 8 hours praying and meditating nearby...&quot;&nbsp;That bit of text is the method of using the item, it's clearly not a standard action to use the incesne, the action to use the incense is to light it and then spend 8 hours praying and meditating.&nbsp; I.e. the action takes 8 hours to complete.&nbsp; &nbsp;You are performing an 8 hour action, this is clearly not &quot;rest&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Veril, post: 2384695, member: 33452"] You are not lighting a candle and breathing, you are using a magic item. Is using a magic item restful? In the general case I think that it is not - while not specifically excluded under the section on rest it's implied (fairly demanding..mental). Is Incense of Meditation a magic item? It's listed under Wonderous items in the DMG, that makes it a magic item. Go back to the Use Items section of the DMG to see how magic items are used (Page 213). [color=windowtext][font=Times New Roman][font=Verdana][color=#cccccc]"To use a magic item, it must be activated, although sometimes activation simply means putting a ring on your finger" [/color][/font][/font][/color] [color=windowtext][font=Times New Roman][font=Verdana][color=#cccccc]SNIP "Activating a magic item is a standard action unless the item description indicates otherwise."[/color][/font][/font][/color] [color=windowtext][font=Times New Roman][font=Verdana][color=#cccccc] [/color][/font][/font][/color][color=windowtext][font=Times New Roman][color=black][/color][/font][/color] 4 methods of item activation are listed. Spell Completion, Spell Trigger, Command Word, Use Activated. Magic items are activated by one of those 4 methods. It's clear by inspection that Incense of Meditation is a "Use Activated" item. from the section on use activated items "[font='Times New Roman'][font=Verdana][color=#cccccc]Unless stated otherwise, activating a use-activated magic item is either a standard action or not an action at all [/color][/font][/font]" From the description of Incense of Meditation "When a divine spellcaster lights a block of incense of meditation and then spends 8 hours praying and meditating nearby..." That bit of text is the method of using the item, it's clearly not a standard action to use the incesne, the action to use the incense is to light it and then spend 8 hours praying and meditating. I.e. the action takes 8 hours to complete. You are performing an 8 hour action, this is clearly not "rest" [/QUOTE]

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