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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 2407111" data-attributes="member: 16814"><p>The problem with your absolute approach is that language is a tool used and developed by human beings (at least as far as we know!), and human beings do not, as a overwhelming majority, think in absolutes. No language that I am aware of is set in totally absolute terms. There is connotation and denotation. When you read a sentence, you must take both into account. The English language is horribly imprecise in its general usage, and the same sentence can have two entirely different meanings depending solely on the inflection applied to the words. This has happened in the rules many times. It will continue to happen. </p><p></p><p>I have conceded that the intent behind this item is that it is meant for divine casters and divine spells only. However, the rule itself reads differently. It speaks of all (both connotation and denotation mean to include all things, not just some) and divine caster (a subset that can include things that are also other things as per the common usage of the English language). So a literal reading indicates that only someone who can cast divine spells may use the device, but it would affect spells of any type that he prepares during its use. </p><p></p><p>Both Scion (as I understand) and myself agree with you on the intent of the item. The arguement here is that the rule itself indicates otherwise, and that could cause problems in your games if you are not aware of the issue. How you read it and how your players read it may not be the same. They may not have the ability or desire to interpret the intent the same way you do. If you are not aware of the problem beforehand, it could cause difficulties when your mystic theurge player thinks he's getting a nice boost and you take half of it away.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 2407111, member: 16814"] The problem with your absolute approach is that language is a tool used and developed by human beings (at least as far as we know!), and human beings do not, as a overwhelming majority, think in absolutes. No language that I am aware of is set in totally absolute terms. There is connotation and denotation. When you read a sentence, you must take both into account. The English language is horribly imprecise in its general usage, and the same sentence can have two entirely different meanings depending solely on the inflection applied to the words. This has happened in the rules many times. It will continue to happen. I have conceded that the intent behind this item is that it is meant for divine casters and divine spells only. However, the rule itself reads differently. It speaks of all (both connotation and denotation mean to include all things, not just some) and divine caster (a subset that can include things that are also other things as per the common usage of the English language). So a literal reading indicates that only someone who can cast divine spells may use the device, but it would affect spells of any type that he prepares during its use. Both Scion (as I understand) and myself agree with you on the intent of the item. The arguement here is that the rule itself indicates otherwise, and that could cause problems in your games if you are not aware of the issue. How you read it and how your players read it may not be the same. They may not have the ability or desire to interpret the intent the same way you do. If you are not aware of the problem beforehand, it could cause difficulties when your mystic theurge player thinks he's getting a nice boost and you take half of it away. [/QUOTE]
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