Reply to thread

Message

<blockquote data-quote="jlhorner1974" data-source="post: 611569" data-attributes="member: 8628">Whether it is a touch attack or not makes a big difference.With any touch attack, incorporeal or not, you are not attempting to get your hit through the defender's armor, you are only trying to touch your target.&nbsp; So it doesn't matter at all what kind of armor it is (leather, plate, mage armor).&nbsp; If touching an armored fighter's plate mail counts as touching him for purposes of a touch attack, then mage armor should work the same way. The fact that mage armor is made of force has nothing to do with it because you aren't trying to bypass the armor in any way.If an incorporeal creature ever has to make a regular attack (not a touch attack) to damage, now the attacker needs to bypass the armor to score a hit.&nbsp; Normal armor is still ignored (since the incorporeal creature bypasses it), but mage armor cannot be ignored because it is made of force and incorporeal creatures cannot bypass force effects.&nbsp; So the defender does get the armor bonus to AC provided by mage armor in this case.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jlhorner1974, post: 611569, member: 8628"] Whether it is a touch attack or not makes a big difference. With any touch attack, incorporeal or not, you are not attempting to get your hit through the defender's armor, you are only trying to touch your target. So it doesn't matter at all what kind of armor it is (leather, plate, mage armor). If touching an armored fighter's plate mail counts as touching him for purposes of a touch attack, then mage armor should work the same way. The fact that mage armor is made of force has nothing to do with it because you aren't trying to bypass the armor in any way. If an incorporeal creature ever has to make a regular attack (not a touch attack) to damage, now the attacker needs to bypass the armor to score a hit. Normal armor is still ignored (since the incorporeal creature bypasses it), but mage armor cannot be ignored because it is made of force and incorporeal creatures cannot bypass force effects. So the defender does get the armor bonus to AC provided by mage armor in this case. [/QUOTE]

Verification