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<blockquote data-quote="Caliburn101" data-source="post: 7583309" data-attributes="member: 6802178">The absence of a rule stating an ability does not exist is I would say an unsound basis with which to assume that an ability must therefore exist.Saying there is no rule saying that an incorporeal creature cannot carry an object, therefore it must be able to, and then saying that when carrying that object it cannot take it through a solid object - when there is no rule saying it's ability to do so is prevented by carrying something is a logical contradiction.The creature is incorporeal - the definition of which is &quot;...not composed of matter; having no material existence.&quot; Therefore the default assumption must logically be that it cannot carry objects having a material existence unless the rules say that is can.BUT - the rules for incorporeal actually much more accurately reflect semi-corporeal status, in which case they can carry objects.The interaction of these things and objects is confusing and rather ridiculous and could probably do with a Sage Advice exposition.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Caliburn101, post: 7583309, member: 6802178"] The absence of a rule stating an ability does not exist is I would say an unsound basis with which to assume that an ability must therefore exist. Saying there is no rule saying that an incorporeal creature cannot carry an object, therefore it must be able to, and then saying that when carrying that object it cannot take it through a solid object - when there is no rule saying it's ability to do so is prevented by carrying something is a logical contradiction. The creature is incorporeal - the definition of which is "...not composed of matter; having no material existence." Therefore the default assumption must logically be that it cannot carry objects having a material existence unless the rules say that is [I]can[/I]. BUT - the rules for incorporeal actually much more accurately reflect semi-corporeal status, in which case they can carry objects. The interaction of these things and objects is confusing and rather ridiculous and could probably do with a Sage Advice exposition. [/QUOTE]

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