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<blockquote data-quote="GameOgre" data-source="post: 7017448" data-attributes="member: 57914">In Horde of the Dragon Queen we had a pc death and the new character brought in was a full defensive tank and without healing would have died before ever even getting to go on his turn(he rolled badly and was last).His AC was rocking, he had plenty of hit points and was a all around well built tank character and would have died on his first round of combat without ever having gotten a chance to swing if the party cleric had not healed him. It was a VERY hard encounter.Playing the game with no healer is not possible at all in any way unless you have a DM that lets you play that way. You know, balanced encounters maybe a little on the easy side.If you have a DM that likes to Challenge a party of well built combat oriented characters and really make them sweat it out, You will have a dedicated healer or die. And that healer will be spending his combats casting healing spells not wading into melee or helping down foes with his offensive abilities. See the DM already has a full party of damage dealers planned for. There will be too many enemies or too powerful enemies for the party to defeat without taking heavy damages....after all the DM wants the party to feel challenged and sweat some.I know I read all the time on these boards that healers should not heal in combat but that is not my experience at all.The 15 or so DM's I deal with in this area do not play their games that way.We don't have 6-8 encounters per day, we don't have balanced encounters, we have awesome fun BUT a healer is mandatory.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GameOgre, post: 7017448, member: 57914"] In Horde of the Dragon Queen we had a pc death and the new character brought in was a full defensive tank and without healing would have died before ever even getting to go on his turn(he rolled badly and was last). His AC was rocking, he had plenty of hit points and was a all around well built tank character and would have died on his first round of combat without ever having gotten a chance to swing if the party cleric had not healed him. It was a VERY hard encounter. Playing the game with no healer is not possible at all in any way unless you have a DM that lets you play that way. You know, balanced encounters maybe a little on the easy side. If you have a DM that likes to Challenge a party of well built combat oriented characters and really make them sweat it out, You will have a dedicated healer or die. And that healer will be spending his combats casting healing spells not wading into melee or helping down foes with his offensive abilities. See the DM already has a full party of damage dealers planned for. There will be too many enemies or too powerful enemies for the party to defeat without taking heavy damages....after all the DM wants the party to feel challenged and sweat some. I know I read all the time on these boards that healers should not heal in combat but that is not my experience at all. The 15 or so DM's I deal with in this area do not play their games that way. We don't have 6-8 encounters per day, we don't have balanced encounters, we have awesome fun BUT a healer is mandatory. [/QUOTE]

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