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<blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 9060632"><p>We had pretty extensive courses on the Holocaust where I went to school and we used to have a survivor who came into the bakery I worked at every day, and he would often talk about his experience at length. When it comes to Indiana Jones, for whatever reason, I feel it understands the gravity of the history surrounding the Nazis. Also they aren't just goofballs to be punched in Indiana Jones (at least that isn't how I remember the movies growing up), they are legitimate threats who, at the end of the first movie at least, face the wrath of God. So there is a real revenge fantasy to a film like Raiders of the Lost Ark that I think is highly cathartic for people (but I also enjoyed Inglorious Basterds as well). I do share some of your reluctance though when it comes to more glib treatment of the subject where contending with a movement that exterminated 6 million Jewish people is as simple as smacking them in the face (I think that can veer into de-emphasizing the genocide by amplifying the cartoonish depiction of Nazis for effect----also when the stakes for modern anti-semitism are still violence and death, I have trouble sharing in glib expressions of Nazi punching). </p><p></p><p>In terms of the new movie I am very curious about it. I am wary of a time travel plot in Indiana Jones. That feels a little far in the way that aliens felt a bit much to me. And I am still having a lot of trouble with this awful title. But probably going to wait for it to come on streaming to watch it. I tried reading reviews and online reactions but it seems this, like so many movies, is subsumed into a larger culture war. I'd rather wait before the emotions around it die down and watch in a way where I can just decide for myself whether I like it or not.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guest 85555, post: 9060632"] We had pretty extensive courses on the Holocaust where I went to school and we used to have a survivor who came into the bakery I worked at every day, and he would often talk about his experience at length. When it comes to Indiana Jones, for whatever reason, I feel it understands the gravity of the history surrounding the Nazis. Also they aren't just goofballs to be punched in Indiana Jones (at least that isn't how I remember the movies growing up), they are legitimate threats who, at the end of the first movie at least, face the wrath of God. So there is a real revenge fantasy to a film like Raiders of the Lost Ark that I think is highly cathartic for people (but I also enjoyed Inglorious Basterds as well). I do share some of your reluctance though when it comes to more glib treatment of the subject where contending with a movement that exterminated 6 million Jewish people is as simple as smacking them in the face (I think that can veer into de-emphasizing the genocide by amplifying the cartoonish depiction of Nazis for effect----also when the stakes for modern anti-semitism are still violence and death, I have trouble sharing in glib expressions of Nazi punching). In terms of the new movie I am very curious about it. I am wary of a time travel plot in Indiana Jones. That feels a little far in the way that aliens felt a bit much to me. And I am still having a lot of trouble with this awful title. But probably going to wait for it to come on streaming to watch it. I tried reading reviews and online reactions but it seems this, like so many movies, is subsumed into a larger culture war. I'd rather wait before the emotions around it die down and watch in a way where I can just decide for myself whether I like it or not. [/QUOTE]
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