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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mmu1" data-source="post: 4247677" data-attributes="member: 319">Sorry, but you strike me as the one in denial here, not Starman.The original Indy movies, while filled with impossible action movie moments, were at no point as over the top as Crystal Skull. It's a matter of scale and degree - jumping out of an airplane in a life raft, surviving a trip on the deck of a submarine, riding around in mine carts or fighting on top of a tank just aren't quite in the same league (either in terms of outlandishness or outright silliness) as surviving a nuclear explosion, the jeep/tree/three waterfalls bit, or Mutt and his monkey army. On top of that, the movie is full of lesser moments that make you cringe, because they'd have left 35 year old Indy gasping in pain and holding on for dear life, but his 50-something alter ego seems to be able to shrug them off. They're out of character, and they add up.It's similar in a way to what happend with the Pirates of the Caribbean movies - in the first (and best) one you have tons of crazy and impossible stunts, but it's not until the 2nd and 3rd one when they decide to turn things up to 11, and you don't just get zombie pirates and insane swashbuckling, but 10-minute rides on waterwheels, teleporting halfway around the world to Singapore, a goddess of the sea, and sword fights on the yardarm of a ship going in circles around a giant whirlpool.</blockquote>