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<blockquote data-quote="Messageboard Golem" data-source="post: 2008671" data-attributes="member: 18387"><p>I ordered some of these counters from their website a month or so ago and decided to share some of my thoughts about them (since no one else has here). </p><p></p><p>The Purchase - The website seems intuitive enough. I was pleased to see that only a few counters showed up on each page rather than having to wait for some huge page to download. If I had a cable modem though it might get annoying. Too bad there isn’t some way to choose how many to display at a time. The search engine seems to work well. The checkout process was clear to me and I immediately got a confirmation email showing my order. I also got an email when the order shipped. Their tracking feature is almost worthless, since it shows only if something has shipped or not. Perhaps in the future they will get something integrated with UPS. Still, the integrated site was very impressive, especially when so many of the D20 companies have cheesy PayPal button shopping carts or some 3rd-party ecommerce site handling their orders. For reference, I ordered the lesser undead pack, the goblinoid pack, and a few miscellaneous counters that caught my eye. </p><p></p><p>The Delivery – I wanted to use some of the stuff for a game that weekend, so I anted up for UPS shipping. Like most web purchases that got expensive. Still I was happy to see my order got processed and sent out the same day I ordered it. Had I known they would be that prompt I would have paid for USPS! The counters came in poly bags inside a standard letter package from UPS. </p><p></p><p>The Counter Packs – The two packs I ordered, the undead and the goblinoid, each had a short adventure in them. As it were I didn’t use them (I already had my low-level mods planned out) but they are interesting to read. The adventures, which are about 6 pages long (2 pages being licensing!) had about 10 rooms in each. The modules seemed to use the encounter rules in the DMG quite well. The maps were NOT done in Campaign Cartographer (which is a big plus for me personally) and seem well done, if a bit TOO clean. The whole map is line art. Both the modules had a nice solid story line and both had ecologically sensible dungeons, making them a plus in my book. Two things I would mention. First, most of the treasure was just listed as a GP value. DMs are instructed to pick their own treasure. I think perhaps this was done for space reasons but I personally would have liked to seen some treasure listed rather than having to (potentially) peruse my DMG looking for what I could give away. Second (speaking of space) was that the mod was printed on a 4” x 6” booklet and inserted in the poly bag. Fortunately, I have good eyesight. The font has to be about a 6 point pitch. Still, it’s readable. </p><p></p><p>The Actual Counters - The counters were, as advertised, printed directly on to plastic and precut. We used them that weekend and several times since and both my players and myself are very happy with them. The plastic is really durable. I used the same marker I use on my battle mat to mark #s and spell effects on the counters. When I was done it wiped right off. The artwork is interesting and probably ought to be a section in this review all its own. Still, Im not an artist, so I cant say that much about it except that I like the style. Most of the pieces I got are a strange top-down-forward kind of perspective. Basically they look like what miniatures would look like from the same angle. Others are more straight-on while the website shows still more from a more top-down angle. I prefer the weird top-down-forward angle personally and hope they start making them all that way. The art is interesting, and there are lots of little details to look at.</p><p></p><p>Some other thoughts that just didn’t come out while I was typing include</p><p></p><p>Other Cons:</p><p> Apparently, these counters are only available via their website. Still, I can’t imagine how you could market these individually through retail stores, so I guess I understand. </p><p></p><p>Other Pros:</p><p> I was thrilled I could buy exactly what I wanted and liked. Frankly there were some counters I thought were ugly or wrong. I didn’t buy them. </p><p> Totally portable. I actually DM at a friends house, so its nice to be able to carry a bunch of monsters around without requiring a third arm or a strength of 20.</p><p></p><p>Conclusion: I like these counters and recommend them to any DM who is searching for specific monsters, wants durable counters that are going to last a long time and can be marked on, and who doesn’t want to invest a fortune in miniatures. Since my original order I’ve gone back and order a number of outsiders which, apparently I cant get anywhere else (either as a miniature or from FDP). They’d be better if they were available in retail stores (maybe they are, and we just don’t get them here) and if the art format was a little more uniform (and of course how I want them). I'd rate it 4 out of 5.</p><p></p><p>"The Halfling"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Messageboard Golem, post: 2008671, member: 18387"] I ordered some of these counters from their website a month or so ago and decided to share some of my thoughts about them (since no one else has here). The Purchase - The website seems intuitive enough. I was pleased to see that only a few counters showed up on each page rather than having to wait for some huge page to download. If I had a cable modem though it might get annoying. Too bad there isn’t some way to choose how many to display at a time. The search engine seems to work well. The checkout process was clear to me and I immediately got a confirmation email showing my order. I also got an email when the order shipped. Their tracking feature is almost worthless, since it shows only if something has shipped or not. Perhaps in the future they will get something integrated with UPS. Still, the integrated site was very impressive, especially when so many of the D20 companies have cheesy PayPal button shopping carts or some 3rd-party ecommerce site handling their orders. For reference, I ordered the lesser undead pack, the goblinoid pack, and a few miscellaneous counters that caught my eye. The Delivery – I wanted to use some of the stuff for a game that weekend, so I anted up for UPS shipping. Like most web purchases that got expensive. Still I was happy to see my order got processed and sent out the same day I ordered it. Had I known they would be that prompt I would have paid for USPS! The counters came in poly bags inside a standard letter package from UPS. The Counter Packs – The two packs I ordered, the undead and the goblinoid, each had a short adventure in them. As it were I didn’t use them (I already had my low-level mods planned out) but they are interesting to read. The adventures, which are about 6 pages long (2 pages being licensing!) had about 10 rooms in each. The modules seemed to use the encounter rules in the DMG quite well. The maps were NOT done in Campaign Cartographer (which is a big plus for me personally) and seem well done, if a bit TOO clean. The whole map is line art. Both the modules had a nice solid story line and both had ecologically sensible dungeons, making them a plus in my book. Two things I would mention. First, most of the treasure was just listed as a GP value. DMs are instructed to pick their own treasure. I think perhaps this was done for space reasons but I personally would have liked to seen some treasure listed rather than having to (potentially) peruse my DMG looking for what I could give away. Second (speaking of space) was that the mod was printed on a 4” x 6” booklet and inserted in the poly bag. Fortunately, I have good eyesight. The font has to be about a 6 point pitch. Still, it’s readable. The Actual Counters - The counters were, as advertised, printed directly on to plastic and precut. We used them that weekend and several times since and both my players and myself are very happy with them. The plastic is really durable. I used the same marker I use on my battle mat to mark #s and spell effects on the counters. When I was done it wiped right off. The artwork is interesting and probably ought to be a section in this review all its own. Still, Im not an artist, so I cant say that much about it except that I like the style. Most of the pieces I got are a strange top-down-forward kind of perspective. Basically they look like what miniatures would look like from the same angle. Others are more straight-on while the website shows still more from a more top-down angle. I prefer the weird top-down-forward angle personally and hope they start making them all that way. The art is interesting, and there are lots of little details to look at. Some other thoughts that just didn’t come out while I was typing include Other Cons: Apparently, these counters are only available via their website. Still, I can’t imagine how you could market these individually through retail stores, so I guess I understand. Other Pros: I was thrilled I could buy exactly what I wanted and liked. Frankly there were some counters I thought were ugly or wrong. I didn’t buy them. Totally portable. I actually DM at a friends house, so its nice to be able to carry a bunch of monsters around without requiring a third arm or a strength of 20. Conclusion: I like these counters and recommend them to any DM who is searching for specific monsters, wants durable counters that are going to last a long time and can be marked on, and who doesn’t want to invest a fortune in miniatures. Since my original order I’ve gone back and order a number of outsiders which, apparently I cant get anywhere else (either as a miniature or from FDP). They’d be better if they were available in retail stores (maybe they are, and we just don’t get them here) and if the art format was a little more uniform (and of course how I want them). I'd rate it 4 out of 5. "The Halfling" [/QUOTE]
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