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<blockquote data-quote="stonegod" data-source="post: 5402540" data-attributes="member: 36973">I don't think its cheesy (actually fits a character concept I had with a hexblade in 3.5). It may not be what the designers intended by RAW, I agree.Anyway, here's the related text from the compendium.So:- Properties, Powers, and Crit Effects transfer. Thus, a Flaming Drpw Long Knife&nbsp; transfers the Flaming power to the Hexblade Weapon/Implement powers- Groups don't transfer (so no Light Blade Expertise on the Heavy Blade Hexblades)- If I have Arcane Implement Prof (Heavy Blades) and wield said Flaming Drow Long Knife in the Off hand, I am wielding two implements. Dual Implement Spellcaster applies*.- I am also wielding Two Weapons; Two Weapon Fighting applies.* TWF always applies. The only nit is in the whether the last sentence in DIS precludes the use for Hexblade powers:Are both usable with the power? The weapon is usable (and is in fact required to be used). This nit comes when you realize you cannot use the power with just the weapon; you have to have an implement in hand to summon the blade in the first place:So, the power is not usable with the Blade by itself, but it is usable with the blade and the implement (and in fact, must be used that way). The feat does not say each has to be used individually.I am comfortable in saying you can use DIS with a Hexblade. It doesn't beat out the damage of a Slayer, say (not at Heroic, anyway). In any case, you can still do the &quot;Make my Hexblade Flaming/Frost/Lighting/whatever&quot; trick w/o DIS.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="stonegod, post: 5402540, member: 36973"] I don't think its cheesy (actually fits a character concept I had with a hexblade in 3.5). It may not be what the designers intended by RAW, I agree. Anyway, here's the related text from the compendium.So: - Properties, Powers, and Crit Effects transfer. Thus, a Flaming Drpw Long Knife transfers the Flaming power to the Hexblade Weapon/Implement powers - Groups don't transfer (so no Light Blade Expertise on the Heavy Blade Hexblades) - If I have Arcane Implement Prof (Heavy Blades) and wield said Flaming Drow Long Knife in the Off hand, I am wielding two implements. Dual Implement Spellcaster applies*. - I am also wielding Two Weapons; Two Weapon Fighting applies. * TWF always applies. The only nit is in the whether the last sentence in DIS precludes the use for Hexblade powers:Are both usable with the power? The weapon is usable (and is in fact [b]required[/b] to be used). This nit comes when you realize you cannot use the power with just the weapon; you have to have an implement in hand to summon the blade in the first place:So, the power is not usable with the Blade by itself, but it is usable with the blade and the implement (and in fact, must be used that way). The feat does not say each has to be used individually. I am comfortable in saying you can use DIS with a Hexblade. It doesn't beat out the damage of a Slayer, say (not at Heroic, anyway). In any case, you can still do the "Make my Hexblade Flaming/Frost/Lighting/whatever" trick w/o DIS. [/QUOTE]

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