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<blockquote data-quote="Spatzimaus" data-source="post: 1059085" data-attributes="member: 3051"><p><em>Originally posted by KaeYoss </em></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Forget the +5 book. I can just as well collect 5 wish scrolls </strong></p><p></p><p>And that's more reasonable. Wish scrolls have many other uses, making them useful things for a Wizard to have in case of emergencies. The advantage of the Tomes is that you don't need a high-level Wizard around to read them for you.</p><p></p><p>Also, while you'd still need to pay the XP to make each scroll, it'd be in five chunks of 5000 instead of one lump sum. The lump sum is the killer; the Wiz 17 or whatever he is has to actually forgo gaining a level solely to build up enough spare XP to make the item.</p><p></p><p>The same applies to finding a Wizard to cast Wish on you five times in a row. He still has to have a pool of 25 kXP stored up, which unless he's Epic means he had to choose not to level up.</p><p></p><p><strong>Well, the books are in the DMG, so they should be around *somewhere*. If noone sells them, we can track one down with high-level divinations. </strong></p><p></p><p>And my point is, why should they be ANYWHERE? What Wizard will actually make one? When I make an item for my friends I take an XP drain, of course, but I'm willing to do it because they're my friends, and giving them better equipment helps me in the long run. But why would you lose that much XP for a stranger? It can't be money.</p><p></p><p>When someone makes an item there's always this opportunity cost for lost levels, but its gold:XP ratio is constant (12.5:1). Except for items which have separate XP costs; the Tomes' ratio is only 5:1. So, even if you were in it for the money, they'd be the worst things you could make. To balance this, you'd basically have to double the cost of every Tome/Manual, just to get them closer to the right ratio.</p><p></p><p>To make things worse, the loot tables aren't linear, though; once you get to around 15th level, you'd make more money by adventuring at higher levels than you'd ever make selling items.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Spatzimaus, post: 1059085, member: 3051"] [i]Originally posted by KaeYoss [/i] [B] Forget the +5 book. I can just as well collect 5 wish scrolls [/B] And that's more reasonable. Wish scrolls have many other uses, making them useful things for a Wizard to have in case of emergencies. The advantage of the Tomes is that you don't need a high-level Wizard around to read them for you. Also, while you'd still need to pay the XP to make each scroll, it'd be in five chunks of 5000 instead of one lump sum. The lump sum is the killer; the Wiz 17 or whatever he is has to actually forgo gaining a level solely to build up enough spare XP to make the item. The same applies to finding a Wizard to cast Wish on you five times in a row. He still has to have a pool of 25 kXP stored up, which unless he's Epic means he had to choose not to level up. [B]Well, the books are in the DMG, so they should be around *somewhere*. If noone sells them, we can track one down with high-level divinations. [/B] And my point is, why should they be ANYWHERE? What Wizard will actually make one? When I make an item for my friends I take an XP drain, of course, but I'm willing to do it because they're my friends, and giving them better equipment helps me in the long run. But why would you lose that much XP for a stranger? It can't be money. When someone makes an item there's always this opportunity cost for lost levels, but its gold:XP ratio is constant (12.5:1). Except for items which have separate XP costs; the Tomes' ratio is only 5:1. So, even if you were in it for the money, they'd be the worst things you could make. To balance this, you'd basically have to double the cost of every Tome/Manual, just to get them closer to the right ratio. To make things worse, the loot tables aren't linear, though; once you get to around 15th level, you'd make more money by adventuring at higher levels than you'd ever make selling items. [/QUOTE]
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