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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5681591" data-attributes="member: 2011">Masterwork armor is required or AC for heavy armor users falls behind quickly. Godplate gets half of it's +12 over plate from magic, half from masterwork. It's only a 2 drop for light armor by high Epic, but it's suicide for heavy armor.Actually, the bonuses from inherent to hit are not so poorly placed if you consider how poor the original to hit system was. Using inherent with a bonus at 5/15/25 (original Expertise rules) results in:1st level: 2nd level: +1 from level, +1 inherent = +2 to hit3rd level: 0 = +2 to hit4th level: +1 from level = +3 to hit5th level: +1 old style expertise (i.e. +1 at 5/15/25) = +4 to hit6th level: +1 from level = +5 to hit7th level: +1 inherent = +6 to hit8th level: +1 from level, +1 from ability score = +8 to hit9th level: 0 = +8 to hit10th level: +1 from level = +9 to hit11th level: 0 = +9 to hit 12th level: +1 from level, +1 inherent = +11 to hit13th level: 0 = +11 to hit14th level: +1 from level, +1 from ability score  = +13 to hit15th level: +1 old style expertise = +14 to hit16th level: +1 from level = +15 to hit17th level: +1 inherent = +16 to hit18th level: +1 from level = +17 to hit19th level: 0 = +17 to hit20th level: +1 from level = +18 to hit21th level: +1 from ability score = +19 to hit  (note: epic destiny could boost this by one)22nd level: +1 from level, +1 inherent = +21 to hit23rd level: 0 = +21 to hit24th level: +1 from level = +22 to hit25th level: +1 old style expertise = +23 to hit26th level: +1 from level = +24 to hit27th level: +1 inherent = +25 to hit28th level: +1 from level, +1 from ability score = +27 to hit29th level: 0 = +27 to hit30th level: +1 from level = +28 to hit The PCs have a +1 advantage at levels 2 and 8, but are at -1 disadvantage at levels 11, 13, and at 19+. But by Paragon, PCs have so many options that it doesn't matter that much.In the big scheme of things, +1 to hit for a level or -1 to hit for a level means that the PCs get an extra hit or miss once per 4- rounds. Yeah, that adds up a little, but it's pretty small in the big scheme of things.</blockquote>

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