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<blockquote data-quote="Faolyn" data-source="post: 8444038" data-attributes="member: 6915329"><p>I wouldn't consider that evil, just highly territorial. Unless you want to say that the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentinelese" target="_blank">Sentinelese</a> are evil?</p><p></p><p>And it's possibly smart of those goblins, if other people have treated them cruelly in the past and they want to avoid that happening again.</p><p></p><p></p><p>That's 100% cultural. Their ugliness may be biological--although it's quite likely that they wouldn't see each other as ugly, unless you want there to be some sort of universal standard for attractiveness. But the methods they take to alter their appearance are by choice. These elves are <em>choosing </em>to look attractive through means that are evil. They <em>could </em>choose to use illusions or masks to cover their appearance.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not really sure that this makes any sort of sense--by which I mean, I have a hard time imagining somebody actually making a creature to act like this, because then the dwarfs would get great pleasure in harming and betraying the wizard creator. </p><p></p><p>Now, I suppose that this could have been an unintended side effect of a wizard's attempt to create a better dwarf. But I think it's also a side effect that would cause the dwarfs to die out really quickly. They'd have no reason to work together (or work with others), meaning it's unlikely that they would survive any great dangers. They'd probably only reproduce through rape, but the women would likely immediately abandon any young they produce since they'd get sick if they raised them (assuming they didn't miscarry, since they would be programmed to get sick if they did anything to ensure a healthy fetus and would take pleasure in harming the fetus). So, I guess these dwarfs would be inherently evil, but it would be a very short-lived problem. </p><p></p><p>Now, if they were specifically programmed to be willing to be altruistic towards each other but hateful to everyone else, that's slightly different. But at that point, I'd say they weren't even properly humanoid anymore. They'd be more like an aberration or possibly a fey. D&D humanoids are expected to have minds that are at least a bit like those of humans.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I wouldn't. If I wanted an Always Evil race, I'd go for fiends or undead, or possibly aberrations. And I certainly wouldn't pick a creature that had a biology like a humanoid's. A creature that is expected to take at least some care of its offspring and compatriots would never be Always Evil.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Faolyn, post: 8444038, member: 6915329"] I wouldn't consider that evil, just highly territorial. Unless you want to say that the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentinelese']Sentinelese[/URL] are evil? And it's possibly smart of those goblins, if other people have treated them cruelly in the past and they want to avoid that happening again. That's 100% cultural. Their ugliness may be biological--although it's quite likely that they wouldn't see each other as ugly, unless you want there to be some sort of universal standard for attractiveness. But the methods they take to alter their appearance are by choice. These elves are [I]choosing [/I]to look attractive through means that are evil. They [I]could [/I]choose to use illusions or masks to cover their appearance. I'm not really sure that this makes any sort of sense--by which I mean, I have a hard time imagining somebody actually making a creature to act like this, because then the dwarfs would get great pleasure in harming and betraying the wizard creator. Now, I suppose that this could have been an unintended side effect of a wizard's attempt to create a better dwarf. But I think it's also a side effect that would cause the dwarfs to die out really quickly. They'd have no reason to work together (or work with others), meaning it's unlikely that they would survive any great dangers. They'd probably only reproduce through rape, but the women would likely immediately abandon any young they produce since they'd get sick if they raised them (assuming they didn't miscarry, since they would be programmed to get sick if they did anything to ensure a healthy fetus and would take pleasure in harming the fetus). So, I guess these dwarfs would be inherently evil, but it would be a very short-lived problem. Now, if they were specifically programmed to be willing to be altruistic towards each other but hateful to everyone else, that's slightly different. But at that point, I'd say they weren't even properly humanoid anymore. They'd be more like an aberration or possibly a fey. D&D humanoids are expected to have minds that are at least a bit like those of humans. I wouldn't. If I wanted an Always Evil race, I'd go for fiends or undead, or possibly aberrations. And I certainly wouldn't pick a creature that had a biology like a humanoid's. A creature that is expected to take at least some care of its offspring and compatriots would never be Always Evil. [/QUOTE]
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