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<blockquote data-quote="Lyxen" data-source="post: 8446563" data-attributes="member: 7032025">This has been discussed to death, it's just a branch, and one looooong dead.No, sorry, even 2e had the concept of Non-aligned creatures (PH Ch 4.), : &quot;In addition to the alignments above, some things--particularly unintelligent monsters (killer plants, etc.) and animals--never bother with moral and ethical concerns. For these creatures, alignment is simply not applicable. A dog, even a well-trained one, is neither good nor evil, lawful nor chaotic. It is simply a dog. For these creatures, alignment is always detected as neutral.&quot; And obviously, even in AD&amp;D, no one was stupid enough to consider that animals were concerned about the cosmic balance. 3e has also multiple types of Neutral alignment, etc.Obviously. Still, in general, the concepts are intact.If you look at the definition of hit points, no two editions have the same one. Still, their use is globally unchanged. And it's the same with alignment, the variations are minor at best compared to the core of a concept that is both unique to D&amp;D and fairly central to its philosophy.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lyxen, post: 8446563, member: 7032025"] This has been discussed to death, it's just a branch, and one looooong dead. No, sorry, even 2e had the concept of Non-aligned creatures (PH Ch 4.), : "In addition to the alignments above, some things--particularly unintelligent monsters (killer plants, etc.) and animals--never bother with moral and ethical concerns. For these creatures, alignment is simply not applicable. A dog, even a well-trained one, is neither good nor evil, lawful nor chaotic. It is simply a dog. For these creatures, alignment is always detected as neutral." And obviously, even in AD&D, no one was stupid enough to consider that animals were concerned about the cosmic balance. 3e has also multiple types of Neutral alignment, etc. Obviously. Still, in general, the concepts are intact. If you look at the definition of hit points, no two editions have the same one. Still, their use is globally unchanged. And it's the same with alignment, the variations are minor at best compared to the core of a concept that is both unique to D&D and fairly central to its philosophy. [/QUOTE]

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