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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mengu" data-source="post: 5061642" data-attributes="member: 65726">Perfect situation for Bluff vs Insight to determine who gets to act in the surprise round. You make your check, initiatives are rolled, and the surprise round begins. In the surprise round, you use Cloud of Darkness. Your ally who made the Insight check, gets to act as well. Then regular rounds begin.There isn't an extra surprise round. You don't get two surprise actions.Take the following example... Two drow archers lurk in the shadowwood. They see a couple elves walking by. The elves fail their perception checks to see the drow. Initiative is rolled. Drow get a surprise round and shoot the elves. Then the regular round begins.If you say the drow shooting the elves begins combat and then the drow get another surprise round to shoot the elves again, and then if the drow get initiative in the regular round, that's 3 times the drow will have attacked the elves before the elves get to do anything. Ambushes are bad enough, they don't need to be worse.</blockquote>