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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tomBitonti" data-source="post: 3599856" data-attributes="member: 13107">Well, A's action (at initiative 11) still occurs, and its effect on B (at initiative 10) cannot be removed.  However, B still has a chance to act.  This would seem to increase the tension and excitement of an encounter:A attacks B, dealing a critical that slays him.  B, in his last moments, seeing but not being able to stop the lethal attack, hurls a bead from his necklace of fireballs to the floor.  The flame engulfs both he and his opponent, obscuring lastly his wry but fading grin.That B should get to act falls out of the near simultaneous actions of A and B.  A's action does not occur *at* initiative 11, but in reality sometime later.  Using the mid-point of A's round (which is initiative + 10) as the *expected* point of the action, then B should get (B's initiative - (A's initiative + 10)) worth of action.Also, I'm trying to obtain a deducible definition of being flat-footed.  The current definition (A's initiative is higher than B's, and B hasn't gone yet) doesn't work in certain circumstances.</blockquote>