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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shard O'Glase" data-source="post: 311847" data-attributes="member: 1134">After that way to long monk debate which I eventually got bored of I had a idea about surprise rounds and initiative modifying actions especially the one whoose name I'm drawing a blank on that gives you the effect of a roll of 20 in the next round.   Lets say you're a rogue and you sneak up on group X, you notice them, they don't notice you, you roll initiative, and you don't like your roll.  You decide you actions when you init comes up so you decide, the heck with this round I'm going to stay hidden and get a +20 on the next rounds init.  Party X still hasn't seen you, what happens in the enxt round.  Is it still a surprise round, has the nornal round started, your DM says go to heck you metagaming freak, it's a new combat reroll initiative and God's mighty anvil drops on your head.  Reason I ask is for stealthers this can be brutal.  Take your sterotypical rogue, high dex(lets say 20), imporved init.  He does this, and then when he finally strikes it is in the surprise round on 29, when normal init comes up he's still on 29 which means basically anyone who doesn't want to be flatfooted has to roll something like a 20.  Or have uncanny dodge.  This would seem to be quite painful even fatal at most levels until everyone has some anti crit device/sneak attack method.</blockquote>