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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CroBob" data-source="post: 5889636" data-attributes="member: 6683307">Ability scores may be more ambiguous currently, but I see no reason an entire chapter couldn't still be allocated to ability checks just like there's a chapter allocated to skills currently. I figure an entire chapter ought to give you a pretty good idea which ability covers which sorts of actions. The best complaint you have is that there are more decisions to be made, but the fact is that players will still attempt the things they're good at, having a good idea what skill and stat will be checked in advance. I've heard people complain that the current skill system is too limiting, and opening it up this way increases it's virtual versatility. We're not designing a computer game where all your options are scripted and we're trying to make the math simpler. We're trying to make the system itself interesting while maintaining usefulness and simplicity at the same time. It's not about making it simple, it's about making it fun and interesting.People are still going to do the things they're good at and have do e before in each encounter. The rogue is still going to roll Dex to hide, just like last time, the Fighter's still going to roll strength to climb up the ledge the archer's on, and with every action the thing to roll will be obvious enough that gameplay will not be hampered. Maybe it will be in groups that split hairs already, but the problem in that case is not the rules.The advantage is versatility and complexity. Simple is good, but too simple is uninteresting. We could just have someone roll a d20 and say anything 11+ succeeds at whatever you're attempting, but that's not interesting at all. Further, what I propose is essentially the same as what 4th has. Skill checks are already just modified stat checks. That's what they are. This just removes the difference between skills and stat checks, making them exactly the same thing instead of essentially the same thing.Consider it's practical application, then. The player knows he's good at "stealth", so he tries to sneak. The DM says his sneak will be a Dex check, since that's the standard stat checked for that and there's nothing unusual a out the circumstances. The player rolls the check, already aware what his modifiers are, and that's it.My idea is essentially the same system, minus the middle man.</blockquote>

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