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<blockquote data-quote="Jacob Lewis" data-source="post: 8432758" data-attributes="member: 6667921"><p>I can't really say that I dislike Essentials as much as what it implied. On its own, I enjoy the cleaner, streamlining of the game itself. It was easy to see how it could run entirely without any previous 4e material and it would feel like a complete game. And while it is technically compatible with the older books, it really muddied the waters for people who were completely happy with the original structure of the game. It's not so much that we were allowed to choose if we wanted to do so or not, but it felt like a strong insistence that everyone <em>should</em>. </p><p></p><p>Also worth noting, Essentials became the only acceptable options for the Encounters program. So it wasn't even a gentle nudge at the point.</p><p></p><p>Regarding the survivor thread, it should be a matter of personal experience not dictated by popular opinion or thought. When I choose to play or run 4e, it is either pre-Essentials or Essentials only. Both are acceptable options for me. So I understand some of the animosity towards it from 4e fans. Its not unlike the 3.5 crowd trying to bury 3.0 or Pathfinder. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jacob Lewis, post: 8432758, member: 6667921"] I can't really say that I dislike Essentials as much as what it implied. On its own, I enjoy the cleaner, streamlining of the game itself. It was easy to see how it could run entirely without any previous 4e material and it would feel like a complete game. And while it is technically compatible with the older books, it really muddied the waters for people who were completely happy with the original structure of the game. It's not so much that we were allowed to choose if we wanted to do so or not, but it felt like a strong insistence that everyone [I]should[/I]. Also worth noting, Essentials became the only acceptable options for the Encounters program. So it wasn't even a gentle nudge at the point. Regarding the survivor thread, it should be a matter of personal experience not dictated by popular opinion or thought. When I choose to play or run 4e, it is either pre-Essentials or Essentials only. Both are acceptable options for me. So I understand some of the animosity towards it from 4e fans. Its not unlike the 3.5 crowd trying to bury 3.0 or Pathfinder. :D [/QUOTE]
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