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<blockquote data-quote="Vaalingrade" data-source="post: 8436600" data-attributes="member: 82524"><p>Re: Pointless class variants</p><p></p><p>D&D across all editions has historically been haunted by a concept I call 'now shut up' items.</p><p></p><p>Basically concepts that the fans clamor for loudly and vehemently that the company or design team have little passion or desire to entertain. So what gets pushed out is something between a passionless attempt and malicious compliance. Exactly what is a simple lackluster effort and actual 'now shut up' is clearly debatable, but I feel that's a bigger reason for kludge than simply making having a lot of trap options on purpose.</p><p></p><p>I'm less savvy on classes like this (though things like the Beguiler and 4e's 4 (4!!!!) versions of playable vampires and especially the Battlemaster are suspect), races are the biggest ones I've observed. Raptorians were Now Shut Up to players who wanted flying PCs in a time when the design team and most DMs had fear of flying, Dragonborn still feel like a Now Shut up to people who wanted playable dragons that manage to at least minimally satisfy</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vaalingrade, post: 8436600, member: 82524"] Re: Pointless class variants D&D across all editions has historically been haunted by a concept I call 'now shut up' items. Basically concepts that the fans clamor for loudly and vehemently that the company or design team have little passion or desire to entertain. So what gets pushed out is something between a passionless attempt and malicious compliance. Exactly what is a simple lackluster effort and actual 'now shut up' is clearly debatable, but I feel that's a bigger reason for kludge than simply making having a lot of trap options on purpose. I'm less savvy on classes like this (though things like the Beguiler and 4e's 4 (4!!!!) versions of playable vampires and especially the Battlemaster are suspect), races are the biggest ones I've observed. Raptorians were Now Shut Up to players who wanted flying PCs in a time when the design team and most DMs had fear of flying, Dragonborn still feel like a Now Shut up to people who wanted playable dragons that manage to at least minimally satisfy [/QUOTE]
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