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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 8438593" data-attributes="member: 87792">It's not all about you. I don't want to play with a collection of clones of me at the same table.Which to me looks like two peas in a pod with your approach of "Everyone must have AEDU and if it doesn't click with you then tough".I don't want simple martial and complex caster. I want simple martial and simple caster and complex martial and complex caster.Which was exactly why we'd given him a twin striking ranger. But it took the respec to a scout for it to click.Veterans who'd been playing since the 70s in both cases. And the player playing a pyromancer had almost been groping for that character that long; he'd been fumbling with wizards for almost as long as he'd been playing D&D because burnination was one of his power fantasies. So he was oscillating between wizards (and fumbling a little) and martial characters (which weren't so much of what he wanted to play). And now he got this character that did fire damage - and lots of it - every turn and without having to read spells or power cards every time he wanted to cast something?Why is there a need for a duel? Nowhere have I said AEDU was bad - and it's simple for me. What I've said is that different people respond well to different things and that gatekeeping is bad.</blockquote>