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<blockquote data-quote="Undrave" data-source="post: 8440157" data-attributes="member: 7015698"><p>I think the Abjuration school is nonsense. It's not a in-universe classification, it's a META classification. It's not like Illusion, or Transmutation, that reflects a specific way it impacts the world... it reflects the way you USE that impact. Shield, for exemple, should be evocation, since it's summon a wall of energy to protect you, but that energy could just as easily have been put to use offensively.</p><p></p><p>I still think it was a mistake to make a specific subclass for the eight school instead of having a generic School Specialist subclass with options in it. It would have create a different outlook on the Wizard so that subclasses weren't just about 'I mostly pick those spells" but could have been more about your philosophical view on magic, the way you interact with your study subject, the purposes you seek to fullfill by researching magic, that sort of thing. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah I don't think they really pushed them well enough, but I kind of always liked the idea, in 4e, of subclass pushing you to a different secondary stat and I liked the idea of the implement being used to reflect that and having riders on powers similar to what Martial types would get for their weapons. The Staff would obviously prefer CON, the Wand DEX for accuracy and the Orb be CHA to impose your will! That sort of thing. The Tome could go with WIS to show you have a flexible mind. </p><p></p><p>There was something there to dig into.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's for sure, the Wizard is the weakest of the PHB1 class in many ways. And I think they really should have come with something to define the Controller role, the same way Strikers have damage bonus, Defenders can mark and Leaders have 2 bonus action heal per encounter. Not sure what it could have been, specifically... maybe a way to, once or twice per encounter, spread a condition? Or get to use the same At-Will twice in a single round without using your Action Point? Just random spitballing here.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Undrave, post: 8440157, member: 7015698"] I think the Abjuration school is nonsense. It's not a in-universe classification, it's a META classification. It's not like Illusion, or Transmutation, that reflects a specific way it impacts the world... it reflects the way you USE that impact. Shield, for exemple, should be evocation, since it's summon a wall of energy to protect you, but that energy could just as easily have been put to use offensively. I still think it was a mistake to make a specific subclass for the eight school instead of having a generic School Specialist subclass with options in it. It would have create a different outlook on the Wizard so that subclasses weren't just about 'I mostly pick those spells" but could have been more about your philosophical view on magic, the way you interact with your study subject, the purposes you seek to fullfill by researching magic, that sort of thing. Yeah I don't think they really pushed them well enough, but I kind of always liked the idea, in 4e, of subclass pushing you to a different secondary stat and I liked the idea of the implement being used to reflect that and having riders on powers similar to what Martial types would get for their weapons. The Staff would obviously prefer CON, the Wand DEX for accuracy and the Orb be CHA to impose your will! That sort of thing. The Tome could go with WIS to show you have a flexible mind. There was something there to dig into. That's for sure, the Wizard is the weakest of the PHB1 class in many ways. And I think they really should have come with something to define the Controller role, the same way Strikers have damage bonus, Defenders can mark and Leaders have 2 bonus action heal per encounter. Not sure what it could have been, specifically... maybe a way to, once or twice per encounter, spread a condition? Or get to use the same At-Will twice in a single round without using your Action Point? Just random spitballing here. [/QUOTE]
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