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<blockquote data-quote="Jemal" data-source="post: 5718836" data-attributes="member: 9026"><p>Actually have an updated working on I was working but never posted b/c we started talking about Inertia. It's at the end of this post, I'll answer your concerns about the other draft first: </p><p></p><p></p><p>Super Suit(Removable): Total 15pp=12pp</p><p>Suit: Protection 6(6), Enhanced Traits: Fort+2(2)</p><p>Helmet/Visor: Immunity: Visual afflictions(2), Enhanced Blast 2, Accurate(5) </p><p></p><p>6 protection + 2 fort + 2 immunity + 5 Blast = 15, 4/5 of 15 is 12. I think you thougth Enhanced blast 2, Accurate(5) was two different things - I should've used a colon not a coma . the 5 is the total cost of the ENhanced blast 2(4) with Accurate(1)</p><p>Either way is fixed in new version.</p><p> </p><p>I count 6 from skills/Fgt, +2 from accurate on Blast, +2 from accurate on visor = +10 atk. </p><p>And on the new one it's +4(skill) +2(dex) +2(accurate blast) +2(Accurate visor) = 10, so same thing. </p><p></p><p></p><p>It's a benefit I was proposing, it's 1pp for +1 to int based skills.. half the cost of actually increasing int, but only gets part of the benefit, so I figured I'd just make it a benefit for flavour. If you don't like it I'll just up his int, i guess.</p><p></p><p>It's not a skill, that's just me noting that Eidetic Memory allows you to make Expertise checks as if you were trained, and so that's his check on any Expertise skill he uses Eidetic Memory for.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I met his defensive PL Caps b/c that's just how you do it in M&M, I can't bring myself to play an underpowered character unless it's something everybody has to do, or is a part of the character concept. If you're looking for some IC 'reason' as to why he's as good as other heroes, then here goes: </p><p>My original concept for him (minus the super powers) is akin to Arnold Schwarzenegger's character from Twins.. He's like a paragon of humanity in great condition(Strong, fast, smart). More appropriately, I supposed, would be to compare him to Bruce Wayne/Batman. He's been fighting as a super hero for years, trained specifically for it in his youth (batman-esque rich guy), and has mutant super powers on top of that.</p><p></p><p>He only has two skills near max - Insight and perception, all the rest are down around 10. Since Optic's primary core is based around Seeing/Noticing/Knowing things, these two seemed important to who he is.</p><p></p><p>As to ties, I'd actually had his Mother being part of the group, and he took her place, though his powers were different (A common occurence among second generation mutants). If he <em>must</em> have the same powers as his parent, then I'll just have to swap her powers from 'mr fantastic' to 'optic sr'. It's not much of a change, just thematic.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Also on another note, I dropped most of Optic's 'tertiary' abilities b/c I didn't feel they made sense in this game - EX: Benefits(Status/wealth), Contacts, Connected, Well Informed. </p><p>I also had a Datalink power in the 2e version that allowed Optic to remote-access computer systems, but I removed it b/c I didn't know if it fit in this campaign.</p><p>Would any of that stuff make sense to put back in, or was I wise to remove it considering the setting?</p><p></p><p>EDIT: Final question for now - I think I asked you about an 'advanced assessment' feature/benefit/advantage earlier, but can't remember. Basically what I want is an.. advanced version of the Assessment power. Possibly more detailed info, or extra info (Maybe giving Damage/Toughness in addition to Attack/Defense/?) Would that be something we can do? I liked the thought of it b/c it fits in with his shtick of seeing/knowing.</p><p></p><p>[sblock=Optic New draft]</p><p>Optic - PL 10</p><p></p><p>Abilities: 48 pp</p><p>STR 2</p><p>STA 3</p><p>DEX 2</p><p>AGI 3</p><p>FGT 2</p><p>INT 4 </p><p>AWE 6</p><p>PRE 2</p><p></p><p>Offenses: </p><p>Initiative: +7 (3 agi +4 Feat)</p><p>Melee Attack: +2 (2 fgt)</p><p>Ranged Attack: +6 (2 dex +4 Skill)</p><p>Specific Attacks: </p><p>Eye Blast: +8, DC 22</p><p>Visor Blast: +10, DC 25</p><p></p><p>Defenses: (23 pp)</p><p>Dodge: +10 (7 base +3 agi)</p><p>Parry: +10 (8 base +2 fgt)</p><p>Toughness: +10 (3 sta +7 protection)</p><p>Fort +10 (4 base +3 sta +3 enhanced)</p><p>Will +10 (4 base +6 awe)</p><p></p><p>Skills: (48 ranks = 24 pp)</p><p>Expertise: Eidetic Memory +10 (+4 Int +6 Feat)</p><p>Insight +18 (12 ranks +6 awe)</p><p>Investigation +10 (5 ranks +4 int +1 Feat)</p><p>Perception +20 (14 ranks +6 awe)</p><p>Persuasion +10 (8 ranks +2 pre)</p><p>Technology +10 (5 ranks +4 int +1 Feat)</p><p>Ranged Combat: Eye Blast +6 (4 ranks +2 dex)</p><p></p><p>Advantages: 6</p><p>Accurate Attack, Assessment, Benefit: Knowledgable(+1 Int checks), Eidetic Memory, Power Attack, Uncanny Dodge</p><p></p><p>Powers: 49</p><p>Enhanced Metabolism: Speed 1, Quickness 1, Regeneration 1, Imp. Init - 4pp</p><p>Eye Blast: Damage 7, Ranged (Precise, Accurate) - 16 pp</p><p>Super Sight: Analytical 2(All sight type), Counters Illusion(2), Extended 2(x100), Infravision, Rapid (x10), Tracking, Darkvision(2)*Noticeable=1*, Microscopic Vision 3(DNA)*Noticeable, Distracting=1*, Penetrates Concealment(4: Xray vision)*Noticeable, Distracting=1* - 12 pp</p><p>Feature: Record/Playback - 1pp</p><p></p><p>Super Suit(Removable): Protection 7(7), Enhanced Traits: Fort+3(3) - 8 pp</p><p>Helmet/Visor: Immunity: Visual afflictions(2), Enhanced Blast 3: Accurate(7), Feature: Advanced Assessment(1) - 8pp</p><p></p><p>Complications: </p><p>Motivation: Responsibility - Optic has known since he was a child that his privileged upbringing and special powers came with a price, that it was his responsibility to help those less fortunate than himself.</p><p>Rivalry/Enemy: Turmoil(See info)</p><p>Weakness: Sonic - As out of place as it may seem for a Vision-based hero, all of Optic's senses are enhanced, and his hearing is particularily sensitive, though he has less 'control' over it.</p><p></p><p>COST: 48 Abilities + 24 Skills + 6 Advantages + 49 Powers + 23 Defenses = 150/150</p><p></p><p>Info: </p><p>The 28 year old Jack Carson is near the peak of human perfection.. Strong, fast, healthy, smart, charming. He's a well-known, respected, and admired businessman with contacts everywhere, The vice president of Op-Tec, a company that specializes in fiber-optics and computer technology, specifically with regards to Military contracts. He has been involved in numerous athletic competitions. He's also not entirely Human... Jack Carson is, in his off-time, the mutant super-hero known as Optic.</p><p>Optic has been fighting crime in one form or another for over a decade. He's a 2nd generation mutant and super hero, son of Bendy-Girl(Deceased) and a computer technician named William Carson(Retired Businessman, founder of Op-Tec). With his current status and contacts in the company his father built, he was able to gain access to an experimental super-suit of very light-weight material, and a custom-made visor which enhances his allready impressive array of eye powers. For the past several years, he's been splitting his time between helping to run the company alongside his older sister (Claren, no known mutation) and using a combination of his skills, mutant super powers, and enhanced technology to fight terrorists, super-villains, and general all-around bad guys.</p><p></p><p>Optic is somewhat stiff and scientific in his approach, with a tendency to do things methodically and overthink things, though he has been known to have the occasional flair for the dramatic.</p><p></p><p>In his long career, Optic has had many encounters with other super-powered beings. He has had repeated contact with Avatu to discuss Technological advances, gaining the aliens advanced insight into his designs, and helping Avatu acclimate to earth. Optic is also one of the few 'good guys' who trusts the Atomic League. As a scientist, he understands their powers, and is untainted by the common public distrust of things nuclear, He has on occasion worked with them to detect and contain radioactive problems.</p><p></p><p>His primary enemies would have to be the members of Turmoil. He is disturbed by Obsidian's unexplainable powers, disdainful of The Claw's misuse of advanced technology, and distrustful of the Golem(He doesn't understand Magic). Turmoil members Midnight Shadow and Red-eye also seem to dislike him, Shadow because he so often sees through her powers, and Red-eye because of some silly competition over the whole 'eye' thing.</p><p></p><p>He has also defeated Assault and Battery solo, using his superior intellect and tactics to overcome the powerful duo by separating them and even managing to arrest Assault, though he was broken out by his partner Battery a few months later.[/sblock]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jemal, post: 5718836, member: 9026"] Actually have an updated working on I was working but never posted b/c we started talking about Inertia. It's at the end of this post, I'll answer your concerns about the other draft first: Super Suit(Removable): Total 15pp=12pp Suit: Protection 6(6), Enhanced Traits: Fort+2(2) Helmet/Visor: Immunity: Visual afflictions(2), Enhanced Blast 2, Accurate(5) 6 protection + 2 fort + 2 immunity + 5 Blast = 15, 4/5 of 15 is 12. I think you thougth Enhanced blast 2, Accurate(5) was two different things - I should've used a colon not a coma . the 5 is the total cost of the ENhanced blast 2(4) with Accurate(1) Either way is fixed in new version. I count 6 from skills/Fgt, +2 from accurate on Blast, +2 from accurate on visor = +10 atk. And on the new one it's +4(skill) +2(dex) +2(accurate blast) +2(Accurate visor) = 10, so same thing. It's a benefit I was proposing, it's 1pp for +1 to int based skills.. half the cost of actually increasing int, but only gets part of the benefit, so I figured I'd just make it a benefit for flavour. If you don't like it I'll just up his int, i guess. It's not a skill, that's just me noting that Eidetic Memory allows you to make Expertise checks as if you were trained, and so that's his check on any Expertise skill he uses Eidetic Memory for. I met his defensive PL Caps b/c that's just how you do it in M&M, I can't bring myself to play an underpowered character unless it's something everybody has to do, or is a part of the character concept. If you're looking for some IC 'reason' as to why he's as good as other heroes, then here goes: My original concept for him (minus the super powers) is akin to Arnold Schwarzenegger's character from Twins.. He's like a paragon of humanity in great condition(Strong, fast, smart). More appropriately, I supposed, would be to compare him to Bruce Wayne/Batman. He's been fighting as a super hero for years, trained specifically for it in his youth (batman-esque rich guy), and has mutant super powers on top of that. He only has two skills near max - Insight and perception, all the rest are down around 10. Since Optic's primary core is based around Seeing/Noticing/Knowing things, these two seemed important to who he is. As to ties, I'd actually had his Mother being part of the group, and he took her place, though his powers were different (A common occurence among second generation mutants). If he [I]must[/I] have the same powers as his parent, then I'll just have to swap her powers from 'mr fantastic' to 'optic sr'. It's not much of a change, just thematic. Also on another note, I dropped most of Optic's 'tertiary' abilities b/c I didn't feel they made sense in this game - EX: Benefits(Status/wealth), Contacts, Connected, Well Informed. I also had a Datalink power in the 2e version that allowed Optic to remote-access computer systems, but I removed it b/c I didn't know if it fit in this campaign. Would any of that stuff make sense to put back in, or was I wise to remove it considering the setting? EDIT: Final question for now - I think I asked you about an 'advanced assessment' feature/benefit/advantage earlier, but can't remember. Basically what I want is an.. advanced version of the Assessment power. Possibly more detailed info, or extra info (Maybe giving Damage/Toughness in addition to Attack/Defense/?) Would that be something we can do? I liked the thought of it b/c it fits in with his shtick of seeing/knowing. [sblock=Optic New draft] Optic - PL 10 Abilities: 48 pp STR 2 STA 3 DEX 2 AGI 3 FGT 2 INT 4 AWE 6 PRE 2 Offenses: Initiative: +7 (3 agi +4 Feat) Melee Attack: +2 (2 fgt) Ranged Attack: +6 (2 dex +4 Skill) Specific Attacks: Eye Blast: +8, DC 22 Visor Blast: +10, DC 25 Defenses: (23 pp) Dodge: +10 (7 base +3 agi) Parry: +10 (8 base +2 fgt) Toughness: +10 (3 sta +7 protection) Fort +10 (4 base +3 sta +3 enhanced) Will +10 (4 base +6 awe) Skills: (48 ranks = 24 pp) Expertise: Eidetic Memory +10 (+4 Int +6 Feat) Insight +18 (12 ranks +6 awe) Investigation +10 (5 ranks +4 int +1 Feat) Perception +20 (14 ranks +6 awe) Persuasion +10 (8 ranks +2 pre) Technology +10 (5 ranks +4 int +1 Feat) Ranged Combat: Eye Blast +6 (4 ranks +2 dex) Advantages: 6 Accurate Attack, Assessment, Benefit: Knowledgable(+1 Int checks), Eidetic Memory, Power Attack, Uncanny Dodge Powers: 49 Enhanced Metabolism: Speed 1, Quickness 1, Regeneration 1, Imp. Init - 4pp Eye Blast: Damage 7, Ranged (Precise, Accurate) - 16 pp Super Sight: Analytical 2(All sight type), Counters Illusion(2), Extended 2(x100), Infravision, Rapid (x10), Tracking, Darkvision(2)*Noticeable=1*, Microscopic Vision 3(DNA)*Noticeable, Distracting=1*, Penetrates Concealment(4: Xray vision)*Noticeable, Distracting=1* - 12 pp Feature: Record/Playback - 1pp Super Suit(Removable): Protection 7(7), Enhanced Traits: Fort+3(3) - 8 pp Helmet/Visor: Immunity: Visual afflictions(2), Enhanced Blast 3: Accurate(7), Feature: Advanced Assessment(1) - 8pp Complications: Motivation: Responsibility - Optic has known since he was a child that his privileged upbringing and special powers came with a price, that it was his responsibility to help those less fortunate than himself. Rivalry/Enemy: Turmoil(See info) Weakness: Sonic - As out of place as it may seem for a Vision-based hero, all of Optic's senses are enhanced, and his hearing is particularily sensitive, though he has less 'control' over it. COST: 48 Abilities + 24 Skills + 6 Advantages + 49 Powers + 23 Defenses = 150/150 Info: The 28 year old Jack Carson is near the peak of human perfection.. Strong, fast, healthy, smart, charming. He's a well-known, respected, and admired businessman with contacts everywhere, The vice president of Op-Tec, a company that specializes in fiber-optics and computer technology, specifically with regards to Military contracts. He has been involved in numerous athletic competitions. He's also not entirely Human... Jack Carson is, in his off-time, the mutant super-hero known as Optic. Optic has been fighting crime in one form or another for over a decade. He's a 2nd generation mutant and super hero, son of Bendy-Girl(Deceased) and a computer technician named William Carson(Retired Businessman, founder of Op-Tec). With his current status and contacts in the company his father built, he was able to gain access to an experimental super-suit of very light-weight material, and a custom-made visor which enhances his allready impressive array of eye powers. For the past several years, he's been splitting his time between helping to run the company alongside his older sister (Claren, no known mutation) and using a combination of his skills, mutant super powers, and enhanced technology to fight terrorists, super-villains, and general all-around bad guys. Optic is somewhat stiff and scientific in his approach, with a tendency to do things methodically and overthink things, though he has been known to have the occasional flair for the dramatic. In his long career, Optic has had many encounters with other super-powered beings. He has had repeated contact with Avatu to discuss Technological advances, gaining the aliens advanced insight into his designs, and helping Avatu acclimate to earth. Optic is also one of the few 'good guys' who trusts the Atomic League. As a scientist, he understands their powers, and is untainted by the common public distrust of things nuclear, He has on occasion worked with them to detect and contain radioactive problems. His primary enemies would have to be the members of Turmoil. He is disturbed by Obsidian's unexplainable powers, disdainful of The Claw's misuse of advanced technology, and distrustful of the Golem(He doesn't understand Magic). Turmoil members Midnight Shadow and Red-eye also seem to dislike him, Shadow because he so often sees through her powers, and Red-eye because of some silly competition over the whole 'eye' thing. He has also defeated Assault and Battery solo, using his superior intellect and tactics to overcome the powerful duo by separating them and even managing to arrest Assault, though he was broken out by his partner Battery a few months later.[/sblock] [/QUOTE]
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