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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lord Twig" data-source="post: 6833261" data-attributes="member: 31754">Yes. This was my line of thinking.This is silly. Let's consider an 8th level Battle Master, Human variant.Human feat: Inspiring LeaderFighting Style: ProtectionManeuvers: Commanders Strike, Distracting Strike, Maneuvering Attack, RallyASI: Feat: Shield MasterASI: +2 to StrASI: Feat: Healer Feat (can't remember exact name)There you go. It is a fighting Warlord, no doubt. He can shove an enemy as a bonus action and give an enemy Disadvantage when they attack an adjacent ally with a reaction every round. He can also grant temporary HPs, hand out attacks, give Advantage to an ally and allow extra movement a limited number of times a day. He can even do actual healing with a healer's kit as an action.And yeah, the 4e Warlord had 300 powers (I'll just take your word for it, I really don't know), but 4e was a very different game. I assume they had Monks and Barbarians? How many powers did they have? How many do they have in 5e? Same thing.So sure, there is room for more, but don't kid yourself into thinking you are going to get a 4e Warlord in 5e. Any more than we have 4e Monks or Barbarians.This assume a Warlord is equal to a wizard. It's not. I would point out that an EK isn't an EK until level 3. You can start getting martial support abilities at level one.Wizard schools and Cleric domains really aren't on the same level as Fighter or Barbarian subclasses. And you just aren't going to get as many Warlord powers as there are spells. 4e was a different game. You are going to have to let it go.I agree. I wouldn't expect any to. But the whole thing with Warlords yelling encouragement at a fallen ally, and the ally miraculously getting up, makes a lot more sense when you put it into the perspective that there is low-level magic running through everything that makes that kind of thing possible.Sure, the Eldritch Knight and Arcane Trickster (and the Bladesinger) are just ways of mixing classes together without multiclassing. So it makes sense to have a magical subclass for a Warlord so he doesn't have to multiclass in to Wizard, or whatever. You might not like it for one reason and I might not like it for another, but then neither of us would have to play that option at all.(You keep dragging me back in! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> )</blockquote>

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