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<blockquote data-quote="mellored" data-source="post: 6833858" data-attributes="member: 6801209">And yet, most of those arguments where used against the warlord.It would of been a much shorter conversation if this was stated at the front.Well, you actually did on this thread.&nbsp; So points for you on that.&nbsp; But i mean in general.If the anti-warlord people could of said what it was they didn't like, rather then making up a bunch of false justifications for their feelings, it could of been delt with much more directly.5e currently has a mix.&quot;Borders on the supernatural&quot; is used to describe the rogue evasion.&quot;your charisma becomes extraordinarily beguiling&quot; for the swashbucklers taunt ability.but &quot;you learn how to inspire allies to fight on past their injuries&quot; for the purple dragon knight.&nbsp; Which at least doesn't say anything about fixing the wounds, but otherwise says nothing about magic.&nbsp; Then again, nothing says it's not magic either.&nbsp; Of course, &quot;magic&quot; doesn't really explain anything either.Though most abilities, like paladins aura, simply say &quot;you get X bonus&quot; without ceremony or explanation.&nbsp; Just &quot;here's something cool.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mellored, post: 6833858, member: 6801209"] And yet, most of those arguments where used against the warlord. It would of been a much shorter conversation if this was stated at the front. Well, you actually did on this thread. So points for you on that. But i mean in general. If the anti-warlord people could of said what it was they didn't like, rather then making up a bunch of false justifications for their feelings, it could of been delt with much more directly. 5e currently has a mix. "Borders on the supernatural" is used to describe the rogue evasion. "your charisma becomes extraordinarily beguiling" for the swashbucklers taunt ability. but "you learn how to inspire allies to fight on past their injuries" for the purple dragon knight. Which at least doesn't say anything about fixing the wounds, but otherwise says nothing about magic. Then again, nothing says it's not magic either. Of course, "magic" doesn't really explain anything either. Though most abilities, like paladins aura, simply say "you get X bonus" without ceremony or explanation. Just "here's something cool." [/QUOTE]

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