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<blockquote data-quote="ChrisCarlson" data-source="post: 6837794" data-attributes="member: 6801216">A level 1 fighter is also an entry level warrior. In fact, I challenge you to show how a level 1 fighter is noticeably more an &quot;expert warrior&quot; than a level 1 war cleric. Same armor. Same weapons. Same attack bonus. Same number of attacks. The only thing left is HD. And if you think 2 less HPs is enough to warrant downgrading competence, then a fighter is not an expert warrior either. Cuz barbarian.Sounds like that would make him fight pretty well to me.I did. Ask the god. Why does any divine being choose whom they choose? The same could be said of faiths in our own world. It's a mystery. They have their unknowable reasons. Since you are presumably creating the fiction in your games, I recommend you come up with something that you like. Or, better yet, be uncertain yourself. Let the narrative of the story help eek it out and discover it over time (or never do - even that works too).(Also, I again challenge your unsupportable differentiation between supposedly &quot;basic warrior&quot; and &quot;expert warrior&quot;, since you continue to avoid showing your math.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ChrisCarlson, post: 6837794, member: 6801216"] A level 1 fighter is also an entry level warrior. In fact, I challenge you to show how a level 1 fighter is noticeably more an "expert warrior" than a level 1 war cleric. Same armor. Same weapons. Same attack bonus. Same number of attacks. The only thing left is HD. And if you think 2 less HPs is enough to warrant downgrading competence, then a fighter is not an expert warrior either. Cuz barbarian. Sounds like that would make him fight pretty well to me. I did. Ask the god. Why does any divine being choose whom they choose? The same could be said of faiths in our own world. It's a mystery. They have their unknowable reasons. Since you are presumably creating the fiction in your games, I recommend you come up with something that you like. Or, better yet, be uncertain yourself. Let the narrative of the story help eek it out and discover it over time (or never do - even that works too). (Also, I again challenge your unsupportable differentiation between supposedly "basic warrior" and "expert warrior", since you continue to avoid showing your math.) [/QUOTE]

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