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<blockquote data-quote="Infiniti2000" data-source="post: 4193014" data-attributes="member: 31734">Singing is not &quot;no action.&quot;&nbsp; Unfortunately, it's not defined explicitly what kind of action it is and I could see either interpretation being valid: (a) since it's not defined, then singing reverts to a free action for speaking, or (b) it's an standard action to maintain concentration.&nbsp; I think most use (a), but unless you can conclusively prove it's not (b), then someone adopting that interpretation would negate your assertion in this thread.&nbsp;One of the annoying things about quoting d20srd.org is that sometimes you'll get the wrong rules.&nbsp; The actual rule is slightly different, &quot;Even while using bardic music that doesn’t require concentration, a bard cannot cast spells, activate magic items by spell completion (such as scrolls), or activate magic items by magic word (such as wands).&quot;Fortunately, I don't believe this changes your stance, but I thought it interesting.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Infiniti2000, post: 4193014, member: 31734"] Singing is not "no action." Unfortunately, it's not defined explicitly what kind of action it is and I could see either interpretation being valid: (a) since it's not defined, then singing reverts to a free action for speaking, or (b) it's an standard action to maintain concentration. I think most use (a), but unless you can conclusively prove it's not (b), then someone adopting that interpretation would negate your assertion in this thread. One of the annoying things about quoting d20srd.org is that sometimes you'll get the wrong rules. The actual rule is slightly different, "Even while using bardic music that doesn’t require concentration, a bard cannot cast spells, activate magic items by spell completion (such as scrolls), or activate magic items by magic word (such as wands)." Fortunately, I don't believe this changes your stance, but I thought it interesting. [/QUOTE]

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