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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Artoomis" data-source="post: 4193957" data-attributes="member: 111">True enough.  I was only pointing out how the rules are written.  Avoiding abuse of the rules is the DM's job.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  Maybe the DM/Player partnership is a better way to put that.Anyway, we know that keeping the song abilities going does require some sort of reasonably robust sound, so that is a balancing factor (after all, it's more than a bit weird to wander everywhere sing "Kill the wabbit, kill the wabbit, with my spear and magic helmet..." (or whatever) to inspire your group.I see the real potential for non-abusive use to be when preparing for an "alpha strike" scenario where you bring everything to bear all at once.  Of course, with the feat that gives you 10 rounds of residual effects rather five, than you can readily do that anyway.The real potential for abuse comes when combining this with the feat that lets you do bardic music wihout making any noise and teh feat that lets you cast spells without having to stop a song.  That can set up the situation where you have all three going at once and keep them going for a very long time... without the accompanying loud noises.  Then again, it costs a feat or two to do that, and this does not really become an issue until high levels, so maybe it's not so bad after all.So, yes, this might be abused and therefore disallowed in a game.  Still, that does not change the fact that the rules allow it.BTW:  I would not allow a warforged to keep this going indenfinately.  I would rule that:1.  You can't keep this going and also rest to get your spells regenerated for the next day.2.  You can't keep this going and also get all your bardic music uses regenerated for the next day.3.  You'll have social problems if you really try and keep this going at all times.Other than that, I'd say go for it.  It's not going to "break" the game, and, if really tweaked, comes at considerable cost for the bard in terms of feats and magic used.I would generally not allow an NPC bardic cohort to be fully tweaked for this, though, as the potential for abuse there is really high.  Then again, I would not give someone exactly what they wanted for a cohort - I'd make you look for one, and then you get what you find.</blockquote>

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