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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nifft" data-source="post: 4194088" data-attributes="member: 6562">Nah, I'm not conceding that "the rules don't say I can't" means that you can. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Even if you are able to ignore the single ability restriction, there's also the implicit restriction on simultaneous performances (e.g. to earn money, you can't make two simultaneous Perform checks and take the better result), and the fact that "playing an instrument in combination with some spoken performance" is specifically defined as a single use of Bardic Music.Then there's common sense, but hopefully we won't have to resort to that. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> It's to hide the presence of the Cleric in Fullplate. There's also Song of the White Raven, which allows you to start a Bard Song as a Swift action. So first round of combat you could start two songs (one Swift, one Standard), and the second round you could start the third song as a Swift, using your Standard to cast a spell or whatever. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Cheers, -- N</blockquote>

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