Reply to thread

Message

<blockquote data-quote="Artoomis" data-source="post: 4195860" data-attributes="member: 111">Actually:(1)&nbsp; Core dragons do not advance by class, so you won't find a bardic dragon.(2)&nbsp; Tossing that little tidbit aside, if a dragon had a bard class, or perhaps we used a dragon disciple with ranks only in perform (sing) and perfrom (oratory), sure, they could use a breath weapon and also maintain a bardic &quot;Inspire&quot; ability.Let's go through the conditions that need to be met to keep an &quot;Inspire&quot; ability maintained:(a)&nbsp; Can the bard still be heard (not silenced or otherwise unable to speak/sing)?&nbsp; Yes.(b)&nbsp; Can a standard action be done while maintaining a bardic &quot;Inspire&quot; ability?&nbsp; Yes.&nbsp; (In fact, even a full-round action can be done while maintinain a bardic &quot;Inspire&quot; ability, as no action (or at most a &quot;free action&quot;) is required to keep it maintained.)(c)&nbsp; Can the recipients of ability still hear the bard?&nbsp; Yes.(d)&nbsp; Is the action being performed by the bard othet than:&nbsp; &quot;cast spells, activate magic items by spell completion (such as scrolls), spell trigger (such as wands), or command word&quot;&nbsp; Yes.Therefore, the dragon bard (or, better example, dragon disciple) may use a supernatrual breath weapon without stopping the maintenance of a bardic &quot;inspire&quot; ability.To better understand this, it is best to try and stop using &quot;real world&quot; logic around the &quot;song&quot; and think about the rules.For example:Why would using a command word activated (or even a verbal-only spell) item force one to stop maintenance of an &quot;Isnpoire&quot; ability that was being maintained by using an instrument?&nbsp; That does not really makes sense, does it?.&nbsp; Not from the prespective of keeping a song going, anyway.&nbsp; The song itself (the non-magical aspect of it) certainly is not interrupted. Thus, you can't really apply what might seem like common sense - you need to rely on the actual rules text, like I did in (2)&nbsp; above with (a) through (d).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Artoomis, post: 4195860, member: 111"] Actually: (1) Core dragons do not advance by class, so you won't find a bardic dragon. (2) Tossing that little tidbit aside, if a dragon had a bard class, or perhaps we used a dragon disciple with ranks only in perform (sing) and perfrom (oratory), sure, they could use a breath weapon and also maintain a bardic "Inspire" ability. Let's go through the conditions that need to be met to keep an "Inspire" ability maintained: (a) Can the bard still be heard (not silenced or otherwise unable to speak/sing)? Yes. (b) Can a standard action be done while maintaining a bardic "Inspire" ability? Yes. (In fact, even a full-round action can be done while maintinain a bardic "Inspire" ability, as no action (or at most a "free action") is required to keep it maintained.) (c) Can the recipients of ability still hear the bard? Yes. (d) Is the action being performed by the bard othet than: "cast spells, activate magic items by spell completion (such as scrolls), spell trigger (such as wands), or command word" Yes. Therefore, the dragon bard (or, better example, dragon disciple) may use a supernatrual breath weapon without stopping the maintenance of a bardic "inspire" ability. To better understand this, it is best to try and stop using "real world" logic around the "song" and think about the rules. For example: Why would using a command word activated (or even a verbal-only spell) item force one to stop maintenance of an "Isnpoire" ability that was being maintained by using an instrument? That does not really makes sense, does it?. Not from the prespective of keeping a song going, anyway. The song itself (the non-magical aspect of it) certainly is not interrupted. Thus, you can't really apply what might seem like common sense - you need to rely on the actual rules text, like I did in (2) above with (a) through (d). [/QUOTE]

Verification