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<blockquote data-quote="Artoomis" data-source="post: 4196200" data-attributes="member: 111">Thanks for the info.I am having a little trouble with &quot;not clearly explained.'&nbsp; I admit it may not be immediately obvious, but:1.&nbsp; All the &quot;Inspire&quot; abilities last &quot;for as long as the ally hears the bard sing ...&quot;2.&nbsp; Sing, of course, means: &quot;reciting poetry, chanting, singing lyrical songs, singing melodies, whistling, playing an instrument, or playing an instrument in combination with some spoken performance.&quot; (That is not relevant, I think, but included for completeness.)3.&nbsp; The following actions cannot be done while maintaining an &quot;Inspire&quot; effect: &quot;cast spells, activate magic items by spell completion (such as scrolls), spell trigger (such as wands), or command word.&quot;4.&nbsp; Starting one of the &quot;Inspire&quot; effects is a Supernatural ability.5.&nbsp; Using a Supernatural ability is not on the list of actions that cannot be done while maintaining an &quot;Inspire&quot; effect.All indisputable rule facts.Conclusion:&nbsp; A bard can start a new &quot;Inspire&quot; effect (using a Su ability while maintaining a different one because:1.&nbsp; The bard has not stopped &quot;singing.&quot;2.&nbsp; The allies can still hear the bard.3.&nbsp; The bard has not taken any action which stops the maintenance of the &quot;Inspire&quot; effect.The &quot;rule&quot; that is mentioned over and over about having to stop a song in order to start a new effect seems to be made up out of whole cloth.I am not arguing over whether that would be a reasonable restriction, just that it is not the rule as written.&nbsp; It's an additional restriction one would impose not coming from the bard calss description of using and maintaining the effects of bardic music abilites.Maybe they really did intend that one could not use another bardic music ability if still maintaining one, and, if so, it's a shame that this is not what the rules state, and do so rather unambiguosly, as shown above in this very post.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Artoomis, post: 4196200, member: 111"] Thanks for the info. I am having a little trouble with "not clearly explained.' I admit it may not be immediately obvious, but: 1. All the "Inspire" abilities last "for as long as the ally hears the bard sing ..." 2. Sing, of course, means: "reciting poetry, chanting, singing lyrical songs, singing melodies, whistling, playing an instrument, or playing an instrument in combination with some spoken performance." (That is not relevant, I think, but included for completeness.) 3. The following actions cannot be done while maintaining an "Inspire" effect: "cast spells, activate magic items by spell completion (such as scrolls), spell trigger (such as wands), or command word." 4. Starting one of the "Inspire" effects is a Supernatural ability. 5. Using a Supernatural ability is not on the list of actions that cannot be done while maintaining an "Inspire" effect. All indisputable rule facts. Conclusion: A bard can start a new "Inspire" effect (using a Su ability while maintaining a different one because: 1. The bard has not stopped "singing." 2. The allies can still hear the bard. 3. The bard has not taken any action which stops the maintenance of the "Inspire" effect. The "rule" that is mentioned over and over about having to stop a song in order to start a new effect seems to be made up out of whole cloth. I am not arguing over whether that would be a reasonable restriction, just that it is not the rule as written. It's an additional restriction one would impose not coming from the bard calss description of using and maintaining the effects of bardic music abilites. Maybe they really did intend that one could not use another bardic music ability if still maintaining one, and, if so, it's a shame that this is not what the rules state, and do so rather unambiguosly, as shown above in this very post. [/QUOTE]

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