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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 3284336" data-attributes="member: 2525">So let's work some of the numbers and see what we come up with.&nbsp; Assume an 8th level Bard.Inspire Courage: +2 morale bonus on attack and weapon damage rollsLute: +1 level to bardic music.Vest of Legends: +5 level to bardic music.Total equivelent level = 14, which makes it +3/+3 instead of +2/+2.Song of the Heart: increases it by +1/+1 to +4/+4.Inspirational Boost Spell:&nbsp; increases it by +1/+1 to +5/+5.Words of Creation: Not sure what impact this has with this combination.&nbsp; It &quot;Doubles the morale bonus...on attack and weapon damage rolls (+2 at 1st level, +4 at 8th level, +6 at 14th level, +8 at 20th level).&quot; I think it is at least +2/+2, but it could be as high as +10/+10 depending on how one interprets the feat interacting with the other effects.&nbsp; I'd like opinions on that.It also causes 3d4 nonlethal damage, so an average of 7.5 nonlethal damage.&nbsp; Not a huge deal, but something to keep in mind.Melodic Casting feat: Allows this bard to cast spells and activate magic items by command word or spell completion while using the inspire courage ability.&nbsp; Lingering Song feat: Inspire courage lasts for 1 minute after an inspired ally stops hearing you play.&nbsp; A bit redundant with Melodic casting.So, at 8th level, it's a minimum of +7/+7 to everyone's attack and damage, and it lasts the entire combat (either you keep up the music and can still fight and cast spells using Melodic casting, or you end it quick and it lasts for 10 rounds, which is generally long enough to last to the end of combat).&nbsp; All at 8th level, and usable 8 times a day.&nbsp; At level 14 it goes up to a minimum of +8/+8.That seems...huge!&nbsp; Carried over everyone's attacks, the amount of damage accounted for by that ability for the course of a single combat is likely massive.Could I get some opinions on how the doubling effect of Words of Creation interacts with the other bonuses here?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 3284336, member: 2525"] So let's work some of the numbers and see what we come up with. Assume an 8th level Bard. Inspire Courage: +2 morale bonus on attack and weapon damage rolls Lute: +1 level to bardic music. Vest of Legends: +5 level to bardic music. Total equivelent level = 14, which makes it +3/+3 instead of +2/+2. Song of the Heart: increases it by +1/+1 to +4/+4. Inspirational Boost Spell: increases it by +1/+1 to +5/+5. Words of Creation: Not sure what impact this has with this combination. It "Doubles the morale bonus...on attack and weapon damage rolls (+2 at 1st level, +4 at 8th level, +6 at 14th level, +8 at 20th level)." I think it is at least +2/+2, but it could be as high as +10/+10 depending on how one interprets the feat interacting with the other effects. [b]I'd like opinions on that.[/b] It also causes 3d4 nonlethal damage, so an average of 7.5 nonlethal damage. Not a huge deal, but something to keep in mind. Melodic Casting feat: Allows this bard to cast spells and activate magic items by command word or spell completion while using the inspire courage ability. Lingering Song feat: Inspire courage lasts for 1 minute after an inspired ally stops hearing you play. A bit redundant with Melodic casting. So, at 8th level, it's a minimum of +7/+7 to everyone's attack and damage, and it lasts the entire combat (either you keep up the music and can still fight and cast spells using Melodic casting, or you end it quick and it lasts for 10 rounds, which is generally long enough to last to the end of combat). All at 8th level, and usable 8 times a day. At level 14 it goes up to a minimum of +8/+8. That seems...huge! Carried over everyone's attacks, the amount of damage accounted for by that ability for the course of a single combat is likely massive. Could I get some opinions on how the doubling effect of Words of Creation interacts with the other bonuses here? [/QUOTE]

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