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<blockquote data-quote="two" data-source="post: 3500632" data-attributes="member: 9002">Good point.&nbsp; You could probably stop the bard levels at 4, that would give you enough 1st level spells for 3 powerful IC's a day, and one 2nd level buff spell (if you have a high enough CH).&nbsp; Probably you would take Alter Self and use a wand a lot.Bard4/OTHER STUFF nets you +4/+4 inspire courage using the easy above builds 3x day, 1 2nd level spell, and the rest is gravy.I would stick with Bard for the spellcasting at full caster level, plus the eventual increase in IC, but that's just me.Bard4/Barbarian X or Bard4/Hexblade or Duskblade would be fun, or just Bard4/Fighter4/OTHER*It occurs to me that +4/+4 is sufficient to make a viable 2-weapon user.&nbsp; Bard4/Fighter4 with weapon focus/specialization after a round of buffing gives +5/+6 to damage.&nbsp; Assuming str=20 at level 8 (post stat-item buffing), that is:+3 (bard BAB) +4 (fighter bab)&nbsp; + 5 (strength) + 4 (IC bonus) = +16 to hit.With improved 2 weapon fighting, I guess that gives you:+14/+9 main hand, +14/+9 off hand, doing:Damage:&nbsp; 5 (str) + 4 (bard stuff) + 2 (weapon spec) + 1 (magic) = +12 damage main hand, +9 damage off hand.That's pretty OK.&nbsp; 4 attacks... full attack action... pretty ok.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="two, post: 3500632, member: 9002"] Good point. You could probably stop the bard levels at 4, that would give you enough 1st level spells for 3 powerful IC's a day, and one 2nd level buff spell (if you have a high enough CH). Probably you would take Alter Self and use a wand a lot. Bard4/OTHER STUFF nets you +4/+4 inspire courage using the easy above builds 3x day, 1 2nd level spell, and the rest is gravy. I would stick with Bard for the spellcasting at full caster level, plus the eventual increase in IC, but that's just me. Bard4/Barbarian X or Bard4/Hexblade or Duskblade would be fun, or just Bard4/Fighter4/OTHER *It occurs to me that +4/+4 is sufficient to make a viable 2-weapon user. Bard4/Fighter4 with weapon focus/specialization after a round of buffing gives +5/+6 to damage. Assuming str=20 at level 8 (post stat-item buffing), that is: +3 (bard BAB) +4 (fighter bab) + 5 (strength) + 4 (IC bonus) = +16 to hit. With improved 2 weapon fighting, I guess that gives you: +14/+9 main hand, +14/+9 off hand, doing: Damage: 5 (str) + 4 (bard stuff) + 2 (weapon spec) + 1 (magic) = +12 damage main hand, +9 damage off hand. That's pretty OK. 4 attacks... full attack action... pretty ok. [/QUOTE]

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