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Inspire Greatness -- Bonus Hit Dice?
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<blockquote data-quote="Slaved" data-source="post: 4174072" data-attributes="member: 43358"><p>It is the Monstrous Manual, why should it say Player Character when that is more limiting than the word Monster?</p><p></p><p>Why does this mention make you believe that none of the book could possibly pertain to Player Characters? As an example I would have no problem with a Player Character taking one of the Feats in the book if that Character Qualified for it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The Players Handbook assumes at least some measure of equivalence between the two. Gaining a Character Level gives a Hit Die along with Special Conditions for what it Gives. Without that the default for the Race would be used. Each Hit Die that a Character has helps for Resisting certain Spells. When being brought back to Life a Character usually loses 1 Level or 1 Hit Die.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Why? The Text of both Abilities give 2 Hit Dice without saying anything about what Type they apply to. Elves are in the Monstrous Manual so why do they not gain Benefits based on their Type while the Animals do? Does an Awakened Animal who becomes a Player Character lose the Benefits of their Extra Hit Dice?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The Advancement Rules are separate from both the Bardic Music Ability and Awakening but they are a good place to look for determining what Bonuses a Creature receives when they gain Hit Dice. Any Aspects of those Hit Dice that are not Pre-Defined by the Ability would default to Extra Hit Dice of the Creatures Type.</p><p></p><p>We can find all of this information in the Creature Type Section as well. Either Section may be used to determine the Benefits gained.</p><p></p><p>I did not say to Advance the Creatures after all but I did say that the Section shows what is Typically gained by each Creature Type when it gains Hit Dice.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Slaved, post: 4174072, member: 43358"] It is the Monstrous Manual, why should it say Player Character when that is more limiting than the word Monster? Why does this mention make you believe that none of the book could possibly pertain to Player Characters? As an example I would have no problem with a Player Character taking one of the Feats in the book if that Character Qualified for it. The Players Handbook assumes at least some measure of equivalence between the two. Gaining a Character Level gives a Hit Die along with Special Conditions for what it Gives. Without that the default for the Race would be used. Each Hit Die that a Character has helps for Resisting certain Spells. When being brought back to Life a Character usually loses 1 Level or 1 Hit Die. Why? The Text of both Abilities give 2 Hit Dice without saying anything about what Type they apply to. Elves are in the Monstrous Manual so why do they not gain Benefits based on their Type while the Animals do? Does an Awakened Animal who becomes a Player Character lose the Benefits of their Extra Hit Dice? The Advancement Rules are separate from both the Bardic Music Ability and Awakening but they are a good place to look for determining what Bonuses a Creature receives when they gain Hit Dice. Any Aspects of those Hit Dice that are not Pre-Defined by the Ability would default to Extra Hit Dice of the Creatures Type. We can find all of this information in the Creature Type Section as well. Either Section may be used to determine the Benefits gained. I did not say to Advance the Creatures after all but I did say that the Section shows what is Typically gained by each Creature Type when it gains Hit Dice. [/QUOTE]
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