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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jeremy Ackerman-Yost" data-source="post: 2170262" data-attributes="member: 4720">Sure.  But are the aboleth/illithid really Old Ones?  Maybe.  Depends on the campaign and world.  They're not really throwing around "Old One" levels of power are they?  Maybe they are some the "children" of such, but because they are also of our world, they are still subject to the kind of temporal causality that we all are.Btw, I remember very, very little about either race, having not had them in a campaign since middle school, but...You can get really screwy with your causality here.  Maybe the Illithid came "first."  They entered our universe at the End.  This wasn't the most opportune time to establish dominion, so they have been coming back in time to various points in an attempt to establish an empire with some legs.  Maybe one group went so far back in time that there were no humanoids?  Or very few.  And they were stranded there.  Without their usual parasitic schtick they had to develop powerful bodies of their own to survive.  The "next" Illithid group to arrive didn't come until millions of years later, so there was plenty of time for the aboleth to forget their ancestry before the development of their racial memory.Instead of the Illithid hating the aboleths as "animals" the aboleths hate the Illithid as "weaklings."Honestly, I really just like the notion of the two species despising each other despite being related to each other.  So many real world parallels, and it's strongly supported by some basic psychology.EDIT: #%@!  Got beat to it. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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