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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jeremy Ackerman-Yost" data-source="post: 2172771" data-attributes="member: 4720">Cool.  What will be the distinction, physiologically or culturally, between the two types of Illithid?  There has to be a significant one.  Otherwise, it's just Illithids fighting Illithids to the PCs observing.Also, this has struck a "recursive Illithids" idea in my head.  The original Illithids (which I will call Illithid^1) found their empire, are getting sacked, and send some of their number back in time, creating what I will call the race Illithid^2.  The I^2 group gets to the time of empire, realizes they've failed to correct things and attack.  But they also send some of their number back in time to correct their mistakes, creating Illithid^3.  I^3 then has to navigate the world while manipulating I^1 AND I^2 in an attempt to change the overall result.  What do you think they do when they realize they failed as well? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Soon enough, there are so many different strains of Illithid wandering the timestream, manipulating each other, humaniods, and everything they can get their tentacles on, that it becomes one big quagmire.  Still, Illithids would have all kinds of prophecy and seemingly strange knowledge of the big picture and what is likely to happen as a result of what.  But different strains would have different ideas of what went wrong, so they would be trying to manipulate history in opposing ways at times.Ultimately, it is the conflicting actions of the Illithids themselves that keeps the timeline stable on the outcome of the fall of the Illithid empire  <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/paranoid.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":uhoh:" title="Paranoid    :uhoh:" data-shortname=":uhoh:" /></blockquote>

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