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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Treebore" data-source="post: 2326010" data-attributes="member: 10177">Fortress' can be stolen just as easily as anything else, if that is what I need to do to restore balance to my game. However, if the PC had the treasure I don't care where they keep it. If they invested in or earned the fortress, bags of holding, haversacks, and portable holes, then why should I be unhappy with them because they use them smartly?In my games I also house rule that any item you are wearing "exposed", has to make items saves whenever you fail to save. Of course, I only really pay attention to this rule when the PC's need to have their power level knocked down.When they complain about this "inconsistancy" I ask them if they would like me to make sure I always remember this rule, or if they can live with me remembering it only when I see a need for it?  Guess what their answer always is?I have only had such problems with high level groups anyways, such as 14th level or higher. Since campaigns have rarely lasted that long I have rarely had to do such things anyway.So between theft, failed magic saves, or looting their unconcious/dead bodies, I have plenty of opportunities to keep the items and wealth in control.So they can use those storage items as much as they want. When the items are destroyed/stolen/lost it just makes it that much more painful.</blockquote>