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Message: <blockquote data-quote="icarusfallz" data-source="post: 4339434" data-attributes="member: 55315">I don't really have a problem with the concept of being able to knock a swarm or something insubstantial prone.  Prone is just a term.  You could look at the swarm as being temporarily disrupted by the blow, forcing it to take an action to reform, returning from "prone".  The same for an insub creature.  The blow shook it for a second, or knocked it slightly out of phase.  This way, your powers that do these things don't lose their potency.  The average person on the street wouldn't be able to pull this sort of thing off, but remember, PCs aren't average.</blockquote>