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<blockquote data-quote="VenezuelanWiz" data-source="post: 4441016" data-attributes="member: 55345">If I recall correctly force effects do full damage to insubstancial creatures. That gives the Wizard: Cloud of Daggers, and the Artificer his at-will power that does force damage and increases AC of an ally. Sadly I'm at work and can't check the rules on force effects and insubstantial. &nbsp;I just ran an encounter with 4 ghosts and a spectre and it wasn't boring at all. The ghosts kept fading into the floor and reappearing elsewhere with flanking breaking up the party fairly continously, and the spectre would go invisible appear in the centre of the party and knock them all prone. This wasn't even with difficult terrain.It was a bit of a cakewalk cause the party was more powerful, but it was a lot of fun with many curses said by the party as the ghosts harried the wizard constantly cause she was the only one that could do real damage.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="VenezuelanWiz, post: 4441016, member: 55345"] If I recall correctly force effects do full damage to insubstancial creatures. That gives the Wizard: Cloud of Daggers, and the Artificer his at-will power that does force damage and increases AC of an ally. Sadly I'm at work and can't check the rules on force effects and insubstantial. I just ran an encounter with 4 ghosts and a spectre and it wasn't boring at all. The ghosts kept fading into the floor and reappearing elsewhere with flanking breaking up the party fairly continously, and the spectre would go invisible appear in the centre of the party and knock them all prone. This wasn't even with difficult terrain. It was a bit of a cakewalk cause the party was more powerful, but it was a lot of fun with many curses said by the party as the ghosts harried the wizard constantly cause she was the only one that could do real damage. [/QUOTE]

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