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<blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 7328143" data-attributes="member: 6696971">This is another approach that can be used (when integrating SCs and combat).&nbsp; The GM frames the Skill Challenge concurrently to the combat and zooms in on specific players as they do.&nbsp; The decision-points they make don't fundamentally change the combat (as they don't interface with the combat mechanics), but the fiction moves forward in response to (a) the framing of the zoomed-in situation, (b) the player action declaration, and (c) the evolved fiction as a result of the outcome of the action resolution.Its very much a synthesis of PBtA systems and 4e, so there is a toggle there (going from the abstraction of the SC's noncombat conflict resolution mechanics to the precise, tactical-depth-laden 4e combat mechanics).&nbsp; So really, its just a question for an individual table:a)&nbsp; Are you ok with toggle (some players have mental frameworks that are more capable of pivoting than others)?b)&nbsp; Are you looking for the Skill Challenge deciision-points to interface with the tactical depth of the combat resolution mechanics?If the answer is yes/no, then this is a very coherent and functional approach for integrating Skill Challenges with 4e's combat resolution mechanics.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Manbearcat, post: 7328143, member: 6696971"] This is another approach that can be used (when integrating SCs and combat). The GM frames the Skill Challenge concurrently to the combat and zooms in on specific players as they do. The decision-points they make don't fundamentally change the combat (as they don't interface with the combat mechanics), but the fiction moves forward in response to (a) the framing of the zoomed-in situation, (b) the player action declaration, and (c) the evolved fiction as a result of the outcome of the action resolution. Its very much a synthesis of PBtA systems and 4e, so there is a toggle there (going from the abstraction of the SC's noncombat conflict resolution mechanics to the precise, tactical-depth-laden 4e combat mechanics). So really, its just a question for an individual table: a) Are you ok with toggle (some players have mental frameworks that are more capable of pivoting than others)? b) Are you looking for the Skill Challenge deciision-points to interface with the tactical depth of the combat resolution mechanics? If the answer is yes/no, then this is a very coherent and functional approach for integrating Skill Challenges with 4e's combat resolution mechanics. [/QUOTE]

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