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[Intellectual challenge] Justify a paladin being a member of a thieves' guild
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<blockquote data-quote="jdrakeh" data-source="post: 3680269" data-attributes="member: 13892"><p>I'm not sure that murdering your opponents and usurping your brother's throne in absence of his body to ensure your authority constitutes legitimacy in any but the eyes of self-serving men. I edited above to add some clarity -- when then Church forgoes the will of god to enrich men who have forsaken him, there is clearly evil afoot. Whom does the paladin serve? The corrupted Church and its masters or a higher authority? </p><p></p><p>I would argue that, in the case of Nottinghamshire, those in power were <em>clearly</em> abusing the power invested in them by God and King, supressing the peasantry and usurping the holdings of absent feudal Lords for personal gain. Was this the will of God? They may have claimed as much, though I think that any literate scholar or nobleman (such as Sir Robin) with access to a Bible could easily refute such claims. </p><p></p><p>The question is, does the paladin serve men or God? The corruption of God's kingdom at the hands of tyrants is the true test of such a soul. Were I the God whom the Paladin had sworn to serve and my Church had forsaken my will, I would demand that my servant rise up fight against such corruption, not partake in it. And if he <em>did</em> partake, he certainly wouldn't be getting any kind of magical backing from me (although, I suppose he may find a new God who was more open to murder, usury, and theft).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jdrakeh, post: 3680269, member: 13892"] I'm not sure that murdering your opponents and usurping your brother's throne in absence of his body to ensure your authority constitutes legitimacy in any but the eyes of self-serving men. I edited above to add some clarity -- when then Church forgoes the will of god to enrich men who have forsaken him, there is clearly evil afoot. Whom does the paladin serve? The corrupted Church and its masters or a higher authority? I would argue that, in the case of Nottinghamshire, those in power were [i]clearly[/i] abusing the power invested in them by God and King, supressing the peasantry and usurping the holdings of absent feudal Lords for personal gain. Was this the will of God? They may have claimed as much, though I think that any literate scholar or nobleman (such as Sir Robin) with access to a Bible could easily refute such claims. The question is, does the paladin serve men or God? The corruption of God's kingdom at the hands of tyrants is the true test of such a soul. Were I the God whom the Paladin had sworn to serve and my Church had forsaken my will, I would demand that my servant rise up fight against such corruption, not partake in it. And if he [i]did[/i] partake, he certainly wouldn't be getting any kind of magical backing from me (although, I suppose he may find a new God who was more open to murder, usury, and theft). [/QUOTE]
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