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Message: <blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 3682337" data-attributes="member: 2067">"Deceptive" might not have been the best choice of words, honestly. I was thinking it was deceptive because you wouldn't intend violence, though you'd use it as a means to extort your victim, but depending on how you phrase it, you might be pretty honest about it. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Though I'd still see it as dishonorable. Because it's a way of strong-arming those weaker than you into having no choice but to obey you. That's cool if those weaker than you are fiends or undead or other inhuman monstrosities, but it gets very problematic, IMO, when these are just people who may have benefited from a corrupt regime. Bystanders, even if not-so-innocent ones. If they're weaker than you, you're supposed to protect them, not assault them, even if they ARE evil (though you are to thwart their evil plans and work against them in other ways). Chivalric challenges, if I'm not mistaken, still respected the loser's legal rights and property (though they'd often be dead). You can't just take the loser's material wealth and do as you please with it. And such divine justice is often hardly honorable, though it may be entirely just. Good is one thing, but IMO, this honorable behavior is a higher standard of "respect for life," and forbids certain tactics, even for just causes (violent extortion being one of them). For a paladin, the means are just as key as the end. If poison is dishonorable because it is giving you an unfair advantage that may kill a man long after you've battled them, certainly forcing people to submit to having their worldly goods taken is dishonorable because it's not about challenging the evil directly, but about preying on people who aren't necessarily directly involved (though they may benefit).</blockquote>

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