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Message: <blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7857678" data-attributes="member: 6919838">"But to get back to expertise - the most important thing it does is reduce your chance of failure. The penalty for failure on knowledge skills is...?"Remember, in 5e, a failure can be some progress with setback. So, it's possible for a failure to give you say three info nits, one good that will add new opportunities, one bad which leads you astray and a third which actually makes things worse by exposing you to the enemy in a worse way. That is not altogether different than a failed stealth check.Also, maybe the recalled bits of info "reveal" that groups are searching for a macguffin of blue rose and that the dark lord is vulnerable to macguffin of of blue rose because they were used in his creation...But while the first part is true the second part is misinfo and really the dark lord wants it to increase his power by making a bride. So, by hjnying down the macguffin, bringingbit to the dark lord, they help him instead of leaving him hunting.Like stealth and the other skills, failure can be a setback not just a null.</blockquote>