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<blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7867702" data-attributes="member: 6919838">[USER=6696971]@Manbearcat[/USER]&quot;Are any of you using 'Success at a Cost' (DMG 242) and could you see the following action resolution handling occur in your game?&quot;I use Success at cost for attack rolls and saves only. I use the basic PHB definition of skill checks in the PHB for ability checks such as survival. That definition lists &quot;some progress with setback&quot; as a core resolution for failing to meet the DC - right alongside &quot;no progress&quot;.So, the DMG option is not applicable for Survival checks, not needed, it's already a part of that.That said, failure on a survival check is often a key for triggering &quot;unplanned encounters&quot; in my games. A common description is your trail having been picked up and you being stalked. Another lpmight be you being so focused on observations of ABC that you did not notice tracks and signs and wandering into a feeding ground or den that a creature would react to. Many others exist. The basic PHB inclusion of &quot;with setback&quot; right there for failed skill checks was a key 5e element for empowering on the fly styles.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="5ekyu, post: 7867702, member: 6919838"] [USER=6696971]@Manbearcat[/USER] "Are any of you using 'Success at a Cost' (DMG 242) and could you see the following action resolution handling occur in your game?" I use Success at cost for attack rolls and saves only. I use the basic PHB definition of skill checks in the PHB for ability checks such as survival. That definition lists "some progress with setback" as a core resolution for failing to meet the DC - right alongside "no progress". So, the DMG option is not applicable for Survival checks, not needed, it's already a part of that. That said, failure on a survival check is often a key for triggering "unplanned encounters" in my games. A common description is your trail having been picked up and you being stalked. Another lpmight be you being so focused on observations of ABC that you did not notice tracks and signs and wandering into a feeding ground or den that a creature would react to. Many others exist. The basic PHB inclusion of "with setback" right there for failed skill checks was a key 5e element for empowering on the fly styles. [/QUOTE]

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